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Alderton

Allen - see Bluetown

Attegare

Bartholemew

Bonny

Boulding

Bridge

Brook

Burley

Burnett

Burrell

Burnett

Catlett

Cleaver

Collard

Cound

Coupland

Court

Creusot

Dutnall

Exel

Farrington

Fentiman

Fletcher

Godwin

Goldsmith

Howard

Llewelyn-Smith

Lyon

Masters

Millen

Moon

Munns

Newman

Ost

Pack

Pretty

Priston

Pope

Rossiter

Smeed

Smith

Sparrow

Tenison

Thompson

Twopenny

Venner

Watson

Webb

White

Willis

Wood

more.....

see also our personal histories pages

 

see also Borden tombstone inscriptions

 

Genealogy

Many thanks for the hard work already done in providing the site for those of us born in the town but flung out into the wider world.

May I suggest that consideration be given to adding a links page to the site that will take the viewer to other Sittingbourne material. I have transcribed the Sittingbourne & Milton Directory 1908/09 with the permission of the copyright holder and you can find it here together with Sittingbourne Land Tax 1780-1832 which was donated by another researcher.

Many thanks and good luck

Peter STUART
Kent Family History Society Membership No 9974
MAXTED -Any
HALL - Queenborough and Faversham
AMOS - Canterbury
WEEKS - Egerton
GOODING - Lenham
MUDDLE - Boxley and Hollingbourne

Sittingbourne lad at Trafalgar

 

William Thompson aged 22 born in Sittingbourne, Kent, England.

Ship: HMS Africa

Rank/Rating: Able Seaman

Service details

Comments: From: Zealand, Pegasus HMS Africa

Ship's pay book number: (SB 121)
13 September 1805 to 5 April 1809 (Was at Trafalgar)
Rank/rating: Able Seaman

HMS Namur

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

/trafalgarancestors/

Peter STUART

ARP Wardens Books

Names, addresses, and in some cases, date of birth are given in these lists of wardens from WWII
Paper Mills, John Smith - enq 31

Sir,
I was very interested in the page on the website about papermills, I have recently found the will of my 4xgt grandfather John SMITH, "gentleman of Sittingbourne" , on the National Archives website, and in his 1829 will he left his papermill in Sittingbourne to his son Edward Smith. John requested to be interred in the vault he had recently built in Sittingbourne graveyard, he finally died in 1836 (having added a couple of codicils to the original will). The quality of the copy of the will is not good. I'm on the trail of the vault in the graveyard now hoping to find some record of memorial inscriptions.
John SMITH is also 3xgt grandfather of Lady Margaret Patricia Hornsby Smith MP.

kind regards
Ginnie Warburton

Burley Family - enq 25

My ancestors came from Sittingbourne. I have their records going back to Thomas and Ann Burley  whose children were born between 1796 and 1810. My interest is in trying to understand their life in Sittingbourne and the environment in which they lived in the early 1800s.

The census documents show that they lived in East End High street Sittingbourne. and most of them were tailors. There was also a Burley family in East End High Street some of whom were plumbers. I have no knowledge of whether these were joined to our "tailor" Burleys

I.would be interested to know what your archives could show.

I am a member of the Society of Genealogists and have a British Library Readers ticket

sincerely, Peter Hollins

Bailiffs in 1901 - enq 5

Would you know whether you or another local repository hold staff lists for county court bailiffs around 1901 ?

My ancestor was listed as such and living in Sittingbourne in the 1901 census.

Thank you for your time in consideration of my request.

yours sincerely

Richard Wagland

Unfortunately we do not hold this information. The Centre For Kentish Studies, County Hall Maidstone, Kent ME14 1XQ hold the Local Government Records for Sittingbourne and may well have the information. Write to The Archivist.  

SHM

Cleaver & Sons - enq 148

I wonder if you have any information to help me.  I have been digging over my chicken run at the bottom of my garden and have unearthed two metal signs, in a poor state.  They both seem to be shop signs.  They say Cleaver & Son, West Street, Sittingbourne, and at the top left is the word 'Gents', the rest is not easily read, but am guessing it should say 'Tailors' or 'Barbers' in the top right hand corner.  Firstly, would love to know if I am guessing rightly about what they did, and secondly wonder what happened to them.  Would love to see a picture of the signs in situ!  As for the signs, anyone want them?

Sally

I`m  wondering if the sign found in your garden is actually from the the workshop and garage of F.Cleaver & Co. 53 to 59 West Street,Sittingbourne. Please see attached from Sittingbourne Directory for 1908-9.-- The word gents on the sign you  dug up could have read Agents. These premises were next door to Ferndale House and the Catholic Church as shown in the postcard. Cleaver & Co traded for over 50 years from this site. 

John Crunden, SHM

yes, I see it.  When I was younger, that was a kind of junk shop-cum-car spares place.  I remember my boyfriend once selling a set of alloy car wheels to the guy there.  I think I remember a cafe next door that became a hair dressers, then it was Beaney's Model Shop, and then Boyds childrens clothes on the corner of Ufton lane.

Thank you.

Cleaver & Sons - enq 70

My grandad Victor said he had Cleaver cousins in Sittingbourne and believes our line is related to them. Frederick Cleaver (senior, Victors Grandad) I believe had 6 brothers/sisters and they may have moved there.

My family tree is online at www.tribalpages.com/tribes/terrycleaver if you wish to see if there are any connections. If you have a family tree of the Cleaver's of Sittingbourne I would appreciate it if you could please send me a copy so I can see if there are any connections, or if there is any other information you have.

Terry

 

Gore Court Cottage - enq 33

I'm wondering if there are photographs available of Gore Court Cottage where my great grandfather, Edward Fentiman and family were living at the 1861 census time period.  The name Tunstall keeps popping up in conjunction with Sittingbourne.  My grandfather's (Henry Fentiman) birth place is given as Tunstall, Sittingbourne, Kent.  Are Tunstall and Sittingbourne one and the same? I'm looking forward to your reply.

Al Fentiman

Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada

Al

No photographs have come to light but I have had this reply from one of our researchers:

"Tunstall is a village which is now more like a suburb of Sittingbourne. In 1861 it was still a separate community, about a mile from the town. It was actually a very small village. Gore Court was an eighteenth century mansion and the families who lived in it over the years employed quite a number of servants. They had two or three cottages close to the mansion and I wonder whether Gore Court Cottage was one of these. Gore Court House was demolished in the 1920s and only the stable block stands today. Part of its lands were saved as a public park. "

Hope this helps
 
Allen, SHM

 

 

Catletts in 16th Century - Enq 53

In researching my family I have found my earliest relative to originate from Sittingbourne circa 16th century.  Can you advise if the Catlett family has relatives living there now?

Dear Mr.Catlett,

Your enquiry about the Catlett family of Sittingbourne is interesting. In our museum we have a copy of the Charter granted to Sittingbourne in 1599 by Queen Elizabeth 1 giving us a Corporation (a local authority) and one of the named Jurats in the charter is a John Catlett, being an honest and upright citizen.  As far as we can find out, there are no Catletts left in Sittingbourne but there is one listed in the telephone directory as living in Strood.

Peter Morgan, SHM

 

Dear Sir/Madam

Please put the person who was enquiring re. the Catlett  family in the 16th C. in touch with us. We may be able to give him some information re. family tree

Many thanks, Ruth Catlett

enq. 126

Please forward my interest in the family history of John Catlett, a 16th C resident of Sittingborne, to Ms. Ruth Catlett as mentioned on your website.

Maurice Marks, Lake Jackson, TX USA

enq 172

Please forward my interest in the family history of John Catlett, a 16th C resident of Sittingbourne, to Ms. Ruth Catlett who is mentioned on your website.

Thanks very much.

Dean Shaffer, Fredericksburg, Virginia USA

 

 

E.M. Tenison & Yokes Court enq 267

For a book on Thomas Bird Mosher, publisher (1891-1923) from Portland, ME, I seek information on one of his correspondents--E. M. [Eva Mabel] Tenison of Yokes Court. Have you any materials on her? Is there perhaps a local library or local historian who might know something of her? I suspect that the life of the eccentric Miss Tenison has given rise to some local legends.


Prof. Nicholas A. Salerno
nicholas.salerno@asu.edu
Nick Salerno
Scottsdale, Arizona
Cemetery records - enq 221

I have many ancestors who lived in Sittingbourne, and through examining the parish records of Saint Michael's Church, I have found a great deal of information about them, including those who were buried in the churchyard up until about 1860. However, I have some ancestors who died after this time, and I would think that after the churchyard was full, they must have been buried in a local cemetery. Is there any way that I could find the records of those who were buried in the cemetery?

I live in Vancouver, BC, Canada, so it is rather difficult for me to do my research, and any help that you could give me would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you so much.
Sincerely,
Beryl Galbraith
Priston, Wheelwright  - enq 257

I wondered whether you or any readers of the website would be able to help me?

I'm researching my great grandfather William Henry Priston (sometimes known as Preston) who who lived at 7 Terrace Road in 1891 and 60 Pembury Street in 1895.
According to Kelly's Directory of Kent, Surrey and Essex from 1891 he was a local wheelwright with premises at 15 East Street. Various certificates I have confirm that he went on to become a master wheelwright. He later moved to Faversham, probably sometime around 1907.
I have a couple of his medals from the Royal Antediluvian Order of Buffaloes Grand Lodge awarded in 1906. Can you tell me whether the lodge had a presence in Sittinggbourne or somewhere nearby?
Any information about William or his business or possible leads for further research would be much appreciated.

Ian Priston

Milton Union Workhouse - enq 209

Do you hold copy records relating to the Milton Union Workhouse for the period 1840 – 1895?
If so could you confirm access arrangements please.
Many thanks for your help.
Yours faithfully
Jo Heathfield


Records for the Milton Union Workhouse for the period 1840 to 1895 are held at the Centre for Kentish Studies: 01622 694363. Access by arrangement between 9 a.m. & 5 p.m. Ticket is normally required.

Keith/ Helen, SHM

EJ Moeran / Smeed - enq 193
I came across the Sittingbourne Museum website during online enquiries in the course of my research work. I am a part-time postgraduate student in the Department of Music at Durham University working towards a Ph.D on the life and works of the composer E.J. Moeran. One of the mysteries about Moeran's life that I am trying to resolve is from where his financial backing came. Moeran had no full-time employment during his adult life and while he was moderately successful as a composer, the income generated from his music would hardly have been sufficient to live on.
Moreover, his childhood circumstances were clearly very affluent but his father was also not in full-time employment any time after resigning his post as a vicar in Norfolk in 1907.

I therefore supposed that there may possibly have been a family fortune and I have been looking into the history of E.J. Moeran's mother - who was born Ada Esther Smeed Whall in King's Lynn, Norfolk in 1866. However, according to the 1871 census, at the age of 5, she was living at Gore Court and is given as the granddaughter of George Smeed - described as "Merchant". In the 1881census, she is accounted for on the roll of Vanburgh Castle Ladies College in Greenwich, at the age of 15, as a "scholar". Ada Esther Smeed Whall married Joseph William Wright Moeran in 1888 and the composer son Ernest John Moeran was born in 1894. It is therefore highly probable that Ada or Esther Moeran, as she was later known, was from a very wealthy family (the Smeeds) and possibly inherited some of this wealth and that it was this that enabled her to support her son through his education, to support him through his adult life as a composer and to provide for the family when her husband gave up the priesthood in order to become a full-time author.
However, I would like to find more concrete information about George Smeed and the Smeed family, what Ada was doing at Gore Court in 1871 - did she live there? was she visiting? What happened to the Smeed fortune when George Smeed died in 1881. And is it possible to trace whether substantial funds were passed to or inherited by Ada Moeran. The composer E.J. Moeran died in tragic circumstances in Kenmare, Ireland in 1950 and his mother died three years later.

I would be very grateful if you could inform me what information now exists about the subjects I have mentioned. With grateful thanks and best regards, Ian Maxwell

You will certainly be able to get a copy of George Smeed's will. All wills after 1858 are available from the Probate Searchroom, First Ave House 42-49 High Holborn London WC1V 6NP. He died in 1881 leaving a fortune of at least £160,000. The book 'George Bargebrick Esquire- the story of George Smeed the brick & cement king' by Richard Hugh Pecks, 1981 would interest you.
It mentions by the way the that the will was contested by George's illegitimate children but not whether they had any success or not.
Helen, SHM

Godwin - enq 177

(see also Buildings and streets, Harold Rd and Unity Street)

My father was born Leslie Robert Smith in Eastry area of Deal on the 19th December 1908. As you can see by his enclosed birth certificate he was born to Annie Smith, Waitress. I will now tell you the story that was told to me about my father's young life. My father's oldest half sister Florence Godwin told my father and me that when she was in her teens that there had been awful arguments between her mother and father. Shortly after this on one Sunday morning my father was brought to the house as a tiny baby by a young girl and her aunt. He was handed over to her father (Francis Edgar Godwin) who took him upstairs to her mother and from that moment on he was their baby brother. She adored him and said that he must never think that he wasn't wanted by his natural mother as she nearly broke her heart when he was handed over. My adoptive grandmother was called Sarah Godwin (nee Hawkes). She married again a man named Percy Jeffery after Francis Edgar had died. My Grandfather died on (May 10th 1915) at the battle of Ypres serving under Princess Patricia's Light Infantry. My father never knew that he was adopted until 1929 when he asked for his birth certificate so that he could marry.

He wrote to my nephew Karl about his early days:  "I was born in Deal (Kent) until 1918 I lived at Sittingbourne where I can remember many incidents mostly about World War 1. This is because there was an Army Camp nearby called Gore Court Park and the soldiers passed through on their way to France, starting with the Dublin Fusiliers. We had air raids by huge cigar shaped balloons called Zeppelins and one night I watched a street where I had lived previously blown down like a pack of cards. In 1916 we purchased a business in the High St consisting of a sweet and confectionery shop and a Cafe above. The cafe was one very large room where I used to sit outside in my pyjamas and listen to the various army performers singing, (I was supposed to be in bed). The first school I can remember was Ufton Lane Infants, where I played with trays of sand and small shells and wrote on a slate with pencils. The next school was Pembury Street where I remember dancing to the piano and the tune at the time was Irving Berlins 'Everybody's doing it'."

As you probably know my main problem and I am still exploring every avenue is who was my father's real mother and if I could get in touch with any of her family.
My Dad also lived in William Street and above a Cafe Confectioners in the high street. It would be interesting if anyone could remember any of these surnames My Grandparents were:

Francis Edgar Godwin (died at Ypres)
Sarah Godwin (nee Hawkes)
Gunner Frank Godwin (Francis' Son)
Florence Godwin(daughter)
Albert Godwin(son)
Leslie Godwin(son) but baptized Leslie Smith to a Annie Smith of 23 College Road Deal

Princess Patricia's Canadian light infantry have been marvellous in giving me information. But its his time in Sittingbourne and Deal that I need help
with.

thanks again
Lorna Laing

enq 201 - Smith

I was wondering if my name and e-mail address could be passed on to Lorna Laing who provided Enquiry No 177 on your website - or is there another way I should contact her myself?
My interest is in the Smith family of Eastry, and as she starts her enquiry "My father was born Leslie Robert Smith in Eastry .................." I thought she might be a good person to get in touch with. My interest is in a lady called Enid, born around 1900ish who married a Smith.
Any help you can provide would be appreciated, Ba
rry

 

Percy Watson - enq 255

I am looking for information on my grandfather's relatives if he has any living. My grandfather's name was Percy Charles Watson. He was born October 25 1899 in Sittingbourne Kent Eng.

His mothers name is Gertrude Watson (Bath). His fathers name is Edward Watson, he was a registered RN. They lived on 14th Dover st , Sittingbourne Kent Eng . my grandfather Percy was in the Royal Air Force from February 25 1921 to February 24 1927. We have a Birth Certificate on Percy Charles Watson, that is all of the information we have on him. If you can't find any information on him or his immediate family , would you be able to give us an idea of where to look or a place?
This would be greatly appreciated thank-you
Vanessa Watson
William Sparrow - enq 228

I am researching my family history and I am trying to find out more about my great great grandfather William Sparrow who was born in Sittingbourne around 1857. His parents were Charles Sparrow and Mary Thomas. William moved to New Zealand and married Francis Gough in 1883.

I was wondering if you could help me find out any information on William, his parents Charles and Mary, and any of William’s siblings (such as birth dates, baptism dates, marriage and death dates etc).
Thanks in advance on any information you can find so that I can advance my family tree research further.
Regards, Tony Gellen, New Zealand
Pope & Newman

Your web site asks for 'snippets' of information, I hope this is of interest.
In 1901, Chalk Tavern, Bassett Rd, was occupied by a John Newman and his wife Emily. John was a naturalised Swede from Stockholm.  I do not know if he owned the pub or not.  In November 1879 John was aboard the Whitstable schooner "Emerald", when it was run down and sunk by a steamer in the Tyne Estuary.  The accident and subsequent inquest are reported in Wallace Harvey's book "The Merchant Ships of Whitstable".  John survived to give evidence at the inquest but the Captain, Ernest Hoult and a "boy" Edwin Coleman were killed (I presume both drowned). 
Soon after this incident John married Emily Warner, from Whitstable and presumably gave up the sea for a land based existence.  Emily Warner was my maternal Great Grandfather's sister.
By coincidence my paternal Great Grandfather, Robert Pope moved to Sittingbourne in the 1870's to work in a "Chemical Factory", where he married Sarah (nee Austin) a local girl and in 1881 they lived at 19 Quay Rd.  By 1901 he was working in the Paper Mill(s) and he and his family were living in Chalkwell Rd.  Both died in the 1920's and are buried in Sitingbourne cemetery.
Hope this is of interest, if you can add any more information I would be grateful. 
ps although I am not from the Sittingbourne area I am living in Kent.  regards AJ Pope

Constance Creusot - enq 56

My name is Max and I live in the South of France. When I was in my teens some 45 years ago I spent some years in Sittingbourne where my mother taught at a Catholic school for girls. She died and was buried in Sittingbourne in the mid seventies. I am her only living relation and have been abroad ever since.

I am trying to get in touch with someone who might explain to me what happens to a thirty five year old grave that probably has'nt been visited, whether it's still there to be seen, whether I can got and have it renovated, and so on.

Can you give me some sort of clue as to who to contact?

Thanks, Max Creusot

(mother's name Constance Margaret Creusot

 

note:

A member has found the grave and forwarded a photo to Max.

Dutnall  - enq 61

I am researching my great great grandfather William Dutnall born about 1804 in Sittingbourne (census 1851). I found William Dutnal(spelt with one l) and his sister Jane listed under St.Michael's Sittingbourne from the internet.  I would like to find the appropriate parish register baptism entry in the hope of finding his parents' names.  Could you tell me the best way to go about this please?

Thanking you, Sylvia Purvis

Venner / Cound enq 206

I am researching Hezekiah Venner born 23 May 1875. I have his Royal Navy papers for his service in the RN in Chatham from 12 November 1895 to 14 November 1907. His parents’ address has been written on his papers as being: 4 Whites Cottages, Chalkwell, Sittingbourne, Kent. I would like to know if you can help me with any information about this address, whether it is still there, whether there are photos available etc.

This gentleman later married (wife’s name unknown) and adopted a little girl named Cecily Rene Cound. They subsequently emigrated to New Zealand. Cecily Rene Venner (Cound) is my husband’s mother, now deceased. She did not leave any information as to her adoption. Any information with regard to her adoption or family would also be of much assistance.
 Susan, NZ
East Kent Ironworks  - Burrell - enq 84

Do you have any information of the above situated in Frederick Street in 1908 particularly register of workers.  We are researching my wife's great grandfather Walter Burrell who came to Borden in 1911 from Suffolk originally then Stratford Essex he was a Blacksmith and we would like to know why he made the move we also know that he was a Baptist. John Rose Plymouth Devon

John, Feb 2006 

The Anchor Coffee Tavern, Teynham - enq 29

Dear Sir, I wonder if you, or visitors to the museum website might be able to help me to find a photo or memories of the Anchor Coffee Tavern, which used to stand in Station Road, Teynham.  This was run on the early part of the 20th century by my G.G Grandmother Emma Hales. 

I am in the process of building a family website and would love to have some more information, a picture or memories of the Tavern and the Hales family of Teynham.  Emma was married to William Hales and had 11 children: Ellen, William, Jane, Fred, Arthur, Flora, Alfred, Fanny, Albert, Henry and Nora.  William owned the butchers shop at Periwinkle Mill, Ellen, Arthur, Flora and Albert all emigrated to Ohio, and the rest of the children all remained local to Teynham and Sittingbourne as far as I am aware. 

I would greatly appreciate any information you can offer.

Many Thanks

Sharon Johnson, May 2005

Masters of East Street  - enq 6

Dear Sir

I visited your Museum 2 weeks ago and found it interesting and your colleagues helpful and informative.

I have discovered that my Great Great Grandfather John Masters lived in 65 East Street Sittingbourne as a Fruiterer in 1891. (according to Kelly's Directory of Kent Sussex and Surrey of that year).  65 is next door (westward) of your Museum 67 East Street(now occupied by Financial Consultants).  My question is whether the existing 65 and 67 were built prior to 1891 or after?

Also John Masters and his father Stephen were in the early 19thC Coachmakers (mentioned in Pigots 1824 and Pigots 1840-Sittingbourne).  John Masters became a Fruiterer and Barge Builder.  I have visited the Dolphin Barge Museum last Sunday and there is a whole poster dedicated to three generations of 'Masters family' that were Barge Builders.

I have yet to find out where John fits in to this.  If any of your members have any information on 'The Masters' I would be interested to hear from them.  I notice on your web page that Sittingbourne was a Travellers town, half way from London to Dover on Watling Street.  Also that this ceased with the coming of the railways and the change of emphasis to shipping of bricks to London by Barges on Milton Creek.  It is possible that my family were involved in this change.

Any data, information would be most welcome.

regards

Tim Timpson

Dr Llewelyn Smith - enq 90

1902 - 1940

I wonder whether you can help me about how my wife's uncle died. Dr. Smith lived in Sittingbourne. He and another doctor died on 29th July 1940 after a car accident. Would you think that the details of the accident and the funeral would be in the local press and would it be in your archives in any chance?

Phil,

Newport, Shropshire

March 2006

 

Willis - Brickmaker - enq73

Hello, I came on your excellent site when I put Murston, Kent, U.K. in Google.  My husbands' g.g.g.grandfather John Willis, was a brickmaker in Kent.  He was from Blean, Canterbury. I have on the 1851 census he was  living at New Ruttington Lane, with wife Elizabeth (nee Hodges)  with 3 sons, 1 daughter, and a sister in law.  By the 1861 census he was living in Murston Road, as a brickmaker.  By the 1881 census,  aged 64, still living at 15 Murston Road, Murston, Kent, he is described as a Brickfield Lab. His sons James, age 28, Thomas age 20 and son Alfred age 17 also Brickfield Lab.

One son John Falconer Willis, born 27th October 1838, who on the 1851 census, is described as age 12, brickmaker, born Ruttington Lane, St. Gregory (registration district  Blean) on his birth certificate, came to Australia after serving in the Crimean War, according to his obit. (must have been very young), arrived in Australia in 1857.  After roaming the goldfields, and marrying in Brisbane Queensland, he finally settled in Glen Innes, New South Wales, where in c. 1877 he started the Glen Innes brickworks, which was run by the Willis family for many years, until around the 1950's.  My husband worked there when a boy and then took on a bricklaying apprenticeship.
I just thought this may  be of interest.  The only thing I cant work out is how far Murston is from Canterbury, and Sittingbourne, which is on my map, but Murston is not.   We would like to visit the U.K. later this year.  Do you ever get enquiries of this nature?
 Regards, Colleen (Willis) Queensland, Australia.

Colleen:

Thank you for your interesting enquiry.  We do indeed get enquiries of this nature quite often. Unfortunately we don't have the resources to do genealogical research unless the families concerned have been prominent in the towns history and we have documentation in the museum.

I can tell you that Murston is adjoined to Sittingbourne (it is now a part of Sittingbourne) just to the east of the centre, and north of the main A2 road.

It had become rather run down in the last 40 years as the old industries died, and new industrial parks have now appeared.

Allen, SHM

 

Fletcher/ brickmaking - enq69

I am at present researching my family tree. I come from 3 generations of brickmakers in Murston. Starting with my G,G,Grand Father Charles Fletcher who was born in Maidstone but who had moved to Essex in the 1851 census. His occupation being recorded as brickmaker. By 1861 he had moved to George Street, Sittingbourne then on to Murston Rd & from then on in subsequent census's he was always working in the brickmaking business as was his son Charles & grandson Charles. The 3rd Charles ( my Great Uncle, born 1896) is the one i wish to clarify a question about. In 1935,  two brothers, P & C Fletcher were recorded as making a record breaking 1 million bricks in a 27 wk season at Murston, does anyone know if these two men were my Great Uncles, or can anyone throw anymore light on to what there full names/addresses or even ages were. I would be very grateful for any information that anyone can give me.

June Marshall (nee Milburn)

The 1925 Directory shows a Charles Thomas Fletcher living at 75 Church Rd. Murston. There is no Percy Fletcher listed but a Hubert Charles Percy Fletcher is dhown at 124 Church Rd. He might have used Percy to avoid confusion.

The 1908 Directory shows a Charles Fletcher at 75 Church Rd. and a Hubert Fletcher at 82 Rock Rd.

TF, SHM

I understand from a friend who lived in Murston Road many years ago, that she recalls a

C. Fletcher who worked for Smeed Dean in what was known as 'middlefield' handmaking bricks.  He lived on the corner of Gas Road and later moved to Buckinghamshire.
 
I knew a Mrs. Fletcher who lived in Bayford Road - she died several years ago.  Her daughter Joyce Waghorn (sometimes called Daphne) lives in Burley Road, Sittingbourne.  However I am not aware as to whether there is any connection to the above C Fletcher.
 
John Clancy may be a good source of information regarding the Fletchers.
 
Peggy Jackson SHM
 

Thank you so much for that info on Charles & Hubert Fletcher. It confirms that they were indeed my Great Uncles. Might i add that Charles was 40 yrs old & Hubert was 42 at the time they achieved their record breaking brickmaking feat. So they both must have been quite fit for their ages ( probably due to the additive free foods of their day eh?). I am indebted to you. Once again, thank you.

With kind regards, June

Farrington - enq 66

I'm trying to trace my family tree and have successfully traced it back to Sittingbourne in the early 1800's. I'm looking to find a John Farrington who died 23/9/1845 approximately. His death was subject to a coroners report, however I cannot locate where this report would actually be stored, if at all? Could you be of any help. I believe that he married Sarah Akhurst in Sittingbourne 1807 as this was published in the local bans and that they had at least 3 children of which Charles born in 1811 is a direct ancestor of mine.

Any help would be gratefully received

David, 2005

The Centre for  Kentish Studies at Maidstone would have it if it exists. Unfortunately too early for the East Kent Gazette which would have reported it as that started in 1855.
Helen, SHM

 

Moon/ Collard - enq 149

We were wondering if there are any records in the museum relating to the Moon or Collard families. Charles Moon, in 1902, is listed on a son's birth certificate as being the proprietor of  a taxi company.   We are given to understand this was a horse and buggy operation and would like to find some information about it.   Charles is my husbands grandfather.    Also the Collard family ran a store to which we have an old photograph but no explanation.

Alex Moon

Although we do not normally have the resources for genealogical research, we have been able to trace  many members of your families and this photo of 23 Dover Street, where Charles Moon is listed in the 1903 directory as operating as a "cab proprietor".

Shirley, SHM

Pack - Enq. 104

Hope you can help me, I am researching my family tree. My (Pack) family came from the Sittingbourne area c 1800. I am looking to find the connection between an Isaac who first married Elizabeth Higgs 1774, then Amy Lake 1778 both at Milton Sittingbourne and a Henry Pack who married a Sarah Gore in Milton 1826. Their daughter Amy born 1836 Frinsted Kent was my great grandmother x2. I also think the Isaac family came from Bobbing which I know is near Sittingbourne. Any info on this family would be most helpful. I live in Perth Australia and so am unable to research the parish records in person.

Jean Harris, Perth Aus.

Edward Twopenny - enq 252

I have just put the name 'Edward Twopenny' into the Google search facility on my PC, as his name appears on the fly leaf of a book which I have just purchased which was printed in 1871. and I wondered who he might be. I was very surprised to see a reference to him appear on your site. Can you enlighten me please.

Regards Helen Kennett

Edward Twopeny 1795-1887 inherited Woodstock House & land in Tunstall son of Edward Twopeny of Rochester & brother of David Twopeny vicar of Stockbury
hope that helps
Helen, SHM
Lyon - Enq. 105

My great great grandfather Daniel Lyon left Sittingbourne in 1855 to come to Australia. His father Samuel Lyon was listed in Pigots directory as a builder/carpenter in Sittingbourne in the early 1840's. Is it possible to find out whether there are still Lyons in Sittingbourne who may have been related to Samuel & Daniel? Is there any other information available about either of these men?

Cameron Lyon, Sydney, Aus..

Cameron:

Have you looked at the 1851 census for Sittingbourne? If not I could check it for you to find details of the family at that date. There was nobody of that surname living in the town or surrounding villages in 1908. The directory of that year lists all inhabitants. However if you want to find out if any descendants do still live in the area you could write to the local paper, the East Kent Gazette in the High Street as they often print such queries
Helen, SHM

Brook - ENQ 120

I have been researching family history for 12 years but have only just started looking into my fathers family (he died when I was 11). I was told that one of my grandfather's (Leslie Hubert BROOK) brothers was a commissionaire at the Queen's Cinema in Sittingbourne. I purchased the book by John Clancy, "Long-Gone Cinemas of Swale" and discovered he was named in it. I was wondering if there were any old photos of the Queen's cinema showing the doorman in his "Resplendent uniform and cap"?  Also another of my grandfather's brothers Sidney Terry  BROOK died in a paper mill accident in 1895 in Sittingbourne I am presuming this would have been the one that you have a history of on your web page. Are there any books available about the mill? Any help you can give me would be most appreciated.

Maria Merrell (nee Brook)

 

Goldsmith - ENQ123

I  am researching a GGG-Grandfather who came to Pennsylvania, USA, around 1850.  He later served in the Union Army in our Civil War and was taken prisoner in the battle of Gettysburg.  Despite his age at the time, he survived and lived several more decades.  I have found through personal recollections of his grandaughter that he was from Sittingbourne.  He would have been born about 1822.  In her recollections, she mentions that his name "James Goldsmith" was not his true surname, but rather the name of a kind shoemaker to whom he was apprentised. (This man later paid for James' passage to America.)  Apparently, according to notes, he did not want to follow in his own father's profession.  I am intrigued by this and wonder what professions of the time might be so disagreeable as to abandon one's own family name.  I also wonder if there would be any records which would give a clue to his birth name, or the changing of a name. Thank you for any help in this direction.  Claire Meloni

 

Millen - Enq 116

The family Millen was for some 200 years a part of Sittingbourne life – as butchers, bakers, farmers, auctioneers, and, more recently, as an editor of the ‘East Kent Gazette’ in the 1950s and 60s. My wife is a Millen, and was born in Sittingbourne. It would be marvellous to find that there were records of the family which might be available. Of course, we should need to visit. You may know the answer, though, to one question; Is there a Wilfrid Millen on the War Memorial for the 1st World War? I know nothing more than that there was a memory of his being killed in Service.  Should be grateful for any thoughts you might have on the likelihood of our finding material.

Yours sincerely 

David Pearce

There is a wonderful web-site 'Sittingbourne Remembers' with details of all those killed in the war & memorials etc. Here you will find Wilfred Millen whose name appears on the Sittingbourne war memorial.-4th battalion Canadian Infantry 'a real gentleman' died 10th August 1918.
Helen
 

 

Webb - enq 95

Hi, my grandfather was from Sittingbourne and I have an old photo that I believe was taken about 1910 of him standing in the doorway of his father's butcher shop, A. Webb & Sons. The shop is in the photo with all sorts of birds, fish and other items hanging out front, with many citizens also included. Would the museum be interested in a copy of this photo? Also, any information on my family would be very much appreciated. My grandfather, Percy Webb, emigrated to America around 1912 or so.

Bill Webb

yes please, SHM

Court - Enq 115

My great, great grandfather Thomas Court was christened on 25 Dec. 1801 in Borden County of Kent and died in the County of Kent in about 1849. His son Thomas came to the US as a cabin boy and eventually settled in Waupaca Wisconsin where he was a farmer. I am interested in finding any of the Court family graves. I recently visited Sittingbourne and visited the Borden Church cemetery but many of the grave markers are very old and hence not legible. I am interested in knowing the history of the Borden Church as well as the Bobbing Church and wonder if any written church history is available. Thank you for any help you can give me.

Sincerely, Jeff Court LaCrescent MN USA

There is a very comprehensive book on the history of Borden-'Borden the history of a Kentish parish' see Synjon books web site www.synjonbooks.co.uk

As regards tombstone inscriptions at Borden I transcribed all those then legible in the 1970s and there were no Courts.

See document here

Helen, SHM

Burnett - ENQ122

I have just discovered your wonderful well presented website. I hope you don't mind my family history question. As I live in Newcastle upon Tyne it is very hard for me to find information. My Great Grandfather and Great Grandmother may possibly have been the landlords of the Rose Inn,Green Street,Teynham .My Grand father may also have been born there in approx 1876.

Would it be possible that you may be able to confirm this? GGF name was HENRY BURNETT  born 1851approx      -   GGM name was MARY ANN DUNCAN born 1856 approx GF name HENRY JAMES BURNETT  born  1876        I would be grateful if any help could be given. John Burnett

Yes I have checked & in 1891 the census for Green Street Teynham shows Henry Burnett 40 general labourer & publican of Rose Inn, wife Mary Ann 32, son Henry J,14, railway station clerk, Jamees B Duncan, fatherinlaw, widower 74 shoemaker + 1 lodger.  In 1881 Henry was a police constable in Teynham  hope this helps

Helen, SHM

Alderton - Enq 78

I really like the web site, very interesting information etc. My 3 x great grandfather William ALDERTON was the baker on High Street, Milton. (evidence from the 1851 & 1861 census) His wife was Frances and They had several children, one of whom was Isabella ALDERTON born 1838 in Milton. My question is in two parts. Firstly, Are there any photographs surviving of the High St, Milton that show the Bakers shop? And secondly, Isabella was a Schoolmistress in Milton as stated by the 1861 census for Milton. She was living at the High St, Milton at the time. Is it possible that someone could point me in the right direction regarding which school she may have taught at, and whether any records are likely to have survived?

Rob Jeffrey

From our History Meeting regarding Milton Workhouse I have found out that two Jackson children were entered into the 1841 Census. Upon contacting my nephew who has compiled the Jackson family history from 1630's, he informs me that Oliver Alderton's daughter married a Charles Jackson who was a distant relation of my husbands. I do not know much of the family, particularly the date enquired about. Regarding a photo of the bakers shop in Milton Highstreet, my nephew is going to look through his collection to see if he has one. My nephew now lives in Cheshire, but has done a lot of research not only of the family. but various other aspects of Sittingbourne and the areas around. If I receive any further information regarding the Alderton family I will forward it to you. Re-reading my nephews letter hr does state that the Aldertons were listed as bakers in Milton in trade direcctories from 1858-1883. Charles Jackson was also a baker in Milton. Oliver Alderton was the Workhouse Master and his wife Elizabeth the Matron. Hope this may be of some help

Peggy, SHM

 

 

Bridge - Enq 151

I am wondering if you know of anybody who has researched the Bridge family from Milton Regis. The Bridge family has resided in that area since at least 1705.
Thank you for any leads, Milton

 

 

Coupland/Rossiter - Enq 152

Thank you for your wonderful website which is very well presented and a joy to read. I wonder whether someone might be able to help me with some family history queries. My Great Grandfather, Edwin Harold Coupland, was, I believe, the headmaster of Milton School. As he was born in 1886, and the 1908 Directory has him listed as an Assistant Master, I expect that this must have been from the late 1930s at the earliest. Does anyone have any information about him - or even remember being taught by him?

My Great Great Grandfather, Edward Coupland, was born in Lincolnshire where he ran a pub until about 1884. He turned up in Sittingbourne via East London in the late 1800s (I wish I knew why!) where he is listed in the Census as a "Beerstore Keeper". My mother recalls that he was later a caretaker at a fever hospital somewhere in the woods near Hollingbourne. I can find no more about this and again, I would love to know more about him. We still have a rather gruesome artefact of a stuffed foxes head - Edward Coupland having shot the unfortunate creature in the 1920s.

Another Great Great Grandfather, Ernest Albert Rossiter was an upholsterer in Sittingbourne High Street (nos 106-108) and my mother believes he may have been Mayor at sometime. She recalls a photograph of him sitting on top of a brand new fire engine - was this donated following a fundraising campaign during his mayoral term?

Sue Threader (Mrs)

However I have now found the information we have been seeking which appears in the 1908 Sittingbourne Directory available at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mrawson/dir08sitt.html

As you can see from the extract I have quoted below, my 2X great grandfather was Chairman of Sittingbourne UDC from 1896 to 1901. Problem solved! I hope this information will be of interest to the other enquirer. (enq 235)

"SITTINGBOURNE URBAN DISTRICT COUNCIL

The Sittingbourne Urban District Council was first elected as such on the passing of the Local Government Act, 1894, and took over the reins of control from the old Sittingbourne Local Board. In January 1895, Mr. James Hulburd became the first Chairman of the Sittingbourne Council, and remained Chairman until April 1896. The late Mr. Ernest Albert Rossiter was Chairman from 1896 to 1901, and then Mr. F. G. Gibson was Chairman for two years.

Mr. Henry Payne has presided over the Council since April, 1903."

(see also enquiry 235)

Captain Harry Munns - enq82

I am trying to find information on my great-grandfather, Captain Harry Munns (c1842-1923) and his life as a master on Thames sailing barges. Please would you read the attachment, which I hope you'll find interesting. I would very much appreciate any ideas you may have for further research, or any information /pictures you have on record.

Jean Keeling

 

Attegare - enq 271

Would it be possible to put this query on your genealogy page. After some 35 years of research, I have recently traced my family line (through the female line) to the Garrards of London. Their family tree shows a link back to one Alured Attegare seated at Sittingbourne. His son was Sir Simon Attegare and his son Stephen Attegare assumed the name Garrard. Would anyone have information concerning the Attegares of Sittingbourne?

Many thanks,
Alan Phillips
Bartholemew - enq.174

Hello, We have been researching our family tree for the past twenty or so years. George Bartholomew (father Thos) and Margaret Winch (father Wm.) were married at Milton register office 27th July 1867. Although the Winch family were quite easy to find unfortunately the Bartholomew side remains a bit of a mystery. George, as far as we know was born in Bilsington. It is thought that there may be a Romany link. Does the museum have any details or is there anyone who can throw any light on the subject? Many thanks, Cecilia Hunter
 

Alfred White, Bargebuilder - enq 204

I am curious to know if there might be anything of interest in the museum relating to my great-grandfather Alfred Marconi White and his barges. I only dabble in genealogy, but am fascinated by the White family ship building history.

Many Thanks, Judith, Texas, USA
Pretty - enq 246

I am researching my family history and have discovered that both my Great Grandfather and my Great Great Grandfather lived in Milton Regis and I would be very happy to learn of any information including pictures which you have about them.

My Great Grandfather was William Pretty, born in Milton Regis in 1860, married Anna Marie Warnes in Milton in 1882, and had 6 children – William in 1884, Louise in 1885, Cordelia in 1887 Gertrude in 1888, Anna in 1889 (my Grandmother) and Jessie in 1891. In 1881 census he was shown as ‘Master on board vessel ‘Onward’ ‘ and the family address as 12 Charlotte Street. In the 1891 census he is shown working as a paper labourer. I would be very interested in knowing about the paper mill and how it operated, although I read that it had closed since January 2007. The family had moved to Chatham by 1901 where he worked as a publican.
My Great Great Grandfather was William Meredith Pretty. He was born in 1834 in Love Lane, Milton Regis, married Sarah Elizabeth Else in 1855 and had 2 children, Edward James in 1858 and William in 1860, before being drowned from his barge in 1866. Do you have any information about this, perhaps from a local paper ? Would this have been working with the paper mill or with bricks ?
I don’t have any pictures of these families and if I could find some it would be so nice. I would very much appreciate anything which you can tell me. I would hope to be able to visit Milton Regis, but as I live in Wetherby in Yorkshire I will need to plan my trip carefully.
With best wishes
Yours sincerely
Diane Kerr

The following web site might help a little
http://www.sittingbournemill.co.uk
This site celebrates the history of Sittingbourne Mill and is a source of contact for anyone who has ever worked at Sittingbourne Mill
Graham, SHM


Thank you so much for this. , we may well call Peter, it would be great to talk to someone who knows the area well. Thanks too for the pictures of the Lion Inn, it was lovely to see it and I have also been into the paper mill site which Graham recommended and found further lovely pictures., I suspect the Lion might be one of the few things remaining which I will find ! I have tracked down a copy of John Clancy’s Story of Sittingbourne and Milton Regis and it has so much information that I have been wanting. Sadly your first comment is proving only too true. Some of the names I will be looking for do appear, for example Love Lane, Latimar Chapel, Mill Street and sadly also disappear during the book but I remain hopeful that something of interest will still be there ! Maybe Hog Farm Row ?!!
I am looking forward to visiting the Museum very much and trying trace some of the books in John Clancy’s bibliography, which may have more photos ! Do you sell any of them in the Museum ?
My family as far as I have traced so far were in and around Milton from before 1717 when my GGGGG Grandfather was born there and so was were all generations (births, marriages and probably deaths) through to my Grandmother Anna, who was born in Charlotte Street in 1889 and lived there for probably the first 10 or 11 years of her life, so it somewhere which I must at least set foot in ! One of her nephews returned there with his family into the 1930’s so a long connection for me.
After reading John Clancy’s book I have to say that I am very glad to have been a 20th century baby !
Thank you for your kindness
With best wishes
Diane
EXEL - Chinaware - enq 224

One of my Ancestors Hezekiah EXEL, [sometimes other variations] left a Will proved 10th December 1774 in which it states he was a Chinaware Dealer of Milton & Sittingbourne in Kent.

Are you please able to give me any information or direction as to how I can find out more about this ancestor.
Yours sincerely,
Gaye Excell,
Rotorua, New Zealand.
Artist - Emily Howard - enq 250

I have a painting by Emily G Howard called Still Water set at Milstead Manor dated 1886. Can you tell me any thing about the artist as I can find nothing. Thank you in excited anticipation. Regards Jo Hemley
Wood - enq 249

The Wesleyan Church I have just been looking for information on the Wesleyan Sunday school and turned as usual to the internet. My Farther Charles Alfred Wood was born in Sittingbourne At 14 West Lane on the 16 April 1908 to Bertram Edward Wood and Clara Elizebeth Wood Ne. Cherrison (correct spelling )

The family Bible that was started by my farther shows it to be won by him at the Wesleyan Sunday School in 1916. I do know that some ware in the house I have a ribbon with several bars added for good attendance I will try and look them out.
I have the reports of the war damage to the Church and wonder if you have any records of the Sunday School ,
My Grand Farther for a part of his life was a barge Master I do have some information on barges he sailed. But I would I any other info. I had another relative on the Cherrison side of the family that was lost at sea, he fell of the barge, I do have paper cuttings reporting the event and of his funeral.
My cousin has been for some time putting together family history of both the Wood and Cherrison families.
My Mother Ethel Annie Wood Ne. Gates was bourn in Murston on the 26 12 1907 I have so far not a lot of info on the Gates family. I do have a book that my mother had Memories of Murston by Geo Andrews there is a photograph on the inside of the Author George Andrews and another of his mother and another of his farther, (who has a full white beard) there are a lot of other photos of people and places I will list them if you wish.
But there is no mention of my Mothers family Gates.
There is a date at the back of the book, W. J Parrett Ltd., Printers 1930. no mention if this is a first edition or not.
Still I have strayed from my original query on the Wesleyan Sunday School so will close ,do hope to here from you. Regards Peter

Shirley
Thank you for your continued interest in my first query. My book Memories of Murston like yours is , a first edition signed, Sincerely yours Geo Andrews on the page with the photograph of George Andrews (The Author) Hard bond ,Blue .

From the mid 1920 s our next door neigh-bours until the late 1970 s early 80 s were a family named Smith , Sidney Smith my Mother went to school with in Murston, his Wife Ivy was an Andrew from Murston I do not know what relation if any she was to the Geo. Andrews who wrote the book, but I would have thought she had some relationship. all alas are now gone .

I will see what else I can remember about the Andrews Smiths and more important to me the Gates being my mother's maiden name. My Grandmother Gates who I never new she died very young, is Buried in Murston Church yard, but I do not know the position of the grave is and have not been there for many years.

 Peter.
Bonny Family - enq 247

I am trying to find out a little about my family who came from Kent. I
know that my great grandfather and uncles (James Rippoth, Sidney and
Henry
Bonny, sons of James Rippoth and Jane Bonny)
emigrated to Canada from Bredgar Village, and that some of their family
lived in Sittingbourne and Maidstone as well. I contacted the Bredgar
Village Historical Society and they suggested that I contact Helen
Allinson who wrote a book on Bredgar village which is now out of print.
Can you suggest anyway for me to get a copy of the book or get in touch
with Helen?
Thanks very much,
Sandy Bonny
(Vancouver, CND)

Boulding - enq 262

I am the Great Great Granddaughter of James Wimsett Boulding. According to his will he was to be buried beside his Grandmother Rose Couchman Boulding.


He died March 18 1929. Do you know someone who would be willing to take a photo of his stone ? Or of the Boulding Family Stones ?

Attached are two photos of James Wimsett Boulding. I also have his death record and will.


Best Wishes,
Cindy White
USA, April 2008

I spent this morning (yes I know it turned out to be the second coldest of the year) in St. Michaels churchyard in Sittingbourne.

I have both bad and interesting news for M/s White.
I was unable to find a gravestone with the names of James Wimsett Boulding and/or Rose Couchman Boulding. There are however many graves from which all inscriptions have been weathered away. The Sacristan of the church (at 9 High Street, Sittingbourne, Kent. U.K.) will have a plan of graves and if M/s White would like to write and obtain details I will return.

The good news is that there is a very fine Boulding mausoleum /vault and a separate gravestone. An inscription on the front of the vault is: -

George son of Thomas and Ann Boulding died 6th Jan 1817 aged 86 years
Also Rose wife of the above
Who died 2nd of March 1851 aged 61 years.
Stone erected by George, Robert and Edwin, Sons of the above.

On one of the side faces is: -

Edwin Boulding died August 23, 1903, Aged 84 years.
And Emma his wife died July 8th, 1917, Aged 83 years

On the other side face is: -

Edward Thomas
Son of George and Rose Boulding
Died 16 Nov. 1814, Aged 74 years.

In a separate gravestone adjacent is

Thomas Boulding and Mary ?????
And Ann Swift.

No further details are legible. I have taken photographs and will forward these if of interest. The vault is surrounded by a high rail.
Keith
Ost -  enq 245

I was born Morwenna Jane Ost and my father's family all came from the Isle of Sheppey. Edgar John Ost was my paternal grandfather. I have been dabbling in the Ost family history whenever possible for some years whenever time permitted, and I am writing regarding information my late uncle felt I should know, in a letter he wrote to me in 2003 shortly before he died.
He told me that Edgar John's mother, Mary Ann, nee Holmes, died when he was 8 years old and that Edgar subsequently engaged a woman to look after the family. He wasn't sure if a relationship developed between them. She apparently turned out to be 'no good' and, to quote my uncle:
"In his twelfth year his father deserted them. When this stepmother was convicted of shoplifting, they were put into care by Queenborough Council. He was in the care of a Mr. Bush and the girls (his sisters) were sent into domestic service. At twelve years, he passed an exam that allowed him to leave school.
"Later he was apprenticed to Mr. Bush and worked on his barge. On completing (his apprenticeship), he worked for a firm as Skipper of a barge at Sittingbourne, the firm being, Smead Dean Brickmakers, near Sittingbourne. He next worked at a Queenborough firm, the Sheppey Glue & Chemical Company....... In 1930, he took over a Thames barge at a Maidstone firm, Hudson & Son - the firm in Queenborough were using Cator (?) lorries and no longer needed his services. This continued until 1936, when he had an accident. He fell into the hold of the barge and damaged his heart. He died a month later......."
Perhaps, while writing, I should also tell you that Edgar's brother, Alfred James, 1871-1944, I am told, became a Comodore Captain on Bullard & King merchant tramp ships, one called, "Umwava" in particular. Another brother, William George Ost, 1863-1935, apparently owned a sail-making yard in Queenborough.
Can you give me any information on any of the firms or barges mentioned? I believe the barges traded from the East India Docks.
Who can I approach to see if there are any records of the Bush foster family? As Mr. Bush owned a barge, perhaps you will have that information.
I look forward to hearing from you with great interest and I would be very happy, of course, to visit if there is any relevant documentation I can see.

I don't know about the Sheerness Heritage Centre. Have you an e-mail address you could give me and I will contact them.

Later:
I must tell you that I have found the Bush family! On impulse I thought I would try the census and just enter "Bush" and "male" and "Queenborough", and I found them just like that! It turns out that they lived just a few doors away so I suspect the fostering, for my grandfather at least, was privately arranged.

But I have drawn an absolute blank regarding his two younger sisters. Where they were placed, I don't know. The Kent Records Office have advised me to check in the Poor Law records when they re-open from stock-taking in a few weeks time.
I am wondering whether the local newspapers would have reported the step-mother's trial and conviction? Or what court records there are for that time?
Thank you again, and I'd be thrilled if you can find anything out re the above and also any of the barges and firms mentioned.

Regards,
Jane Morgan

Your grandfather seems to have had quite an interesting early life. He was, I think, born in Queenborough in 1874. As well as the brothers mentioned. who were both older than Edgar, he had sisters: - Adelaide; Florence and Mary. There was also another brother, Charles.

After his mother Mary Ann's death Edgar John seems to have used his names in the other order i.e. John Edgar. His Mother had been born in Queenborough in 1844 but her father had been a fisherman He was born in Woolwich in 1828 and it was with his maternal grandfather, John T Holmes that John E went to live.

Keith, SHM

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