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Genealogy
Many thanks for the hard work already done
in providing the site for those of us born in the town but flung out into
the wider world.
May I suggest that consideration be given
to adding a links page to the site that will take the viewer to other
Sittingbourne material. I have transcribed the
Sittingbourne
& Milton Directory 1908/09
with
the permission of the copyright holder and you can find it here
together with
Sittingbourne
Land Tax 1780-1832 which was
donated by another researcher.
Many thanks and good luck
Peter STUART
Kent Family History Society Membership No 9974
MAXTED -Any
HALL - Queenborough and Faversham
AMOS - Canterbury
WEEKS - Egerton
GOODING - Lenham
MUDDLE - Boxley and Hollingbourne
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Sittingbourne
lad at Trafalgar
William Thompson aged 22 born in
Sittingbourne, Kent, England.
Ship: HMS Africa
Rank/Rating:
Able Seaman
Service
details
Comments:
From: Zealand, Pegasus
HMS
Africa
Ship's
pay book number: (SB 121)
13 September 1805 to 5 April 1809 (Was at Trafalgar)
Rank/rating: Able Seaman
HMS
Namur
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
/trafalgarancestors/
Peter
STUART
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ARP Wardens Books
Names, addresses, and in some cases, date of birth are given in these lists
of wardens from WWII |
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Paper Mills, John Smith
- enq 31
Sir,
I was very interested in the page on the website about papermills, I have
recently found the will of my 4xgt grandfather John SMITH, "gentleman
of Sittingbourne" , on the National Archives website, and in his 1829
will he left his papermill in Sittingbourne to his son Edward Smith. John
requested to be interred in the vault he had recently built in Sittingbourne
graveyard, he finally died in 1836 (having added a couple of codicils to the
original will). The quality of the copy of the will is not good. I'm on the
trail of the vault in the graveyard now hoping to find some record of
memorial inscriptions.
John SMITH is also 3xgt grandfather of Lady Margaret Patricia Hornsby Smith
MP.
kind regards
Ginnie Warburton
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Burley Family
- enq 25 My ancestors came from Sittingbourne. I have
their records going back to Thomas and Ann Burley whose children were
born between 1796 and 1810. My interest is in trying to understand their
life in Sittingbourne and the environment in which they lived in the early
1800s.
The census documents show that they lived in
East End High street Sittingbourne. and most of them were tailors. There was
also a Burley family in East End High Street some of whom were plumbers. I
have no knowledge of whether these were joined to our "tailor"
Burleys
I.would be interested to know what your
archives could show.
I am a member of the Society of Genealogists
and have a British Library Readers ticket
sincerely,
Peter Hollins
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Bailiffs in 1901
- enq 5 Would you know whether you or another local repository hold staff
lists for county court bailiffs around 1901 ?
My ancestor was listed as such and living in Sittingbourne in the
1901 census.
Thank you for your time in consideration of my request.
yours sincerely
Richard Wagland
Unfortunately we do not hold this
information. The Centre For Kentish Studies, County Hall Maidstone, Kent
ME14 1XQ hold the Local Government Records for Sittingbourne and may well
have the information. Write to The Archivist.
SHM
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Cleaver & Sons - enq
148
I wonder
if you have any information to help me. I have been digging over my chicken
run at the bottom of my garden and have unearthed two metal signs, in a poor
state. They both seem to be shop signs. They say Cleaver & Son, West
Street, Sittingbourne, and at the top left is the word 'Gents', the rest is
not easily read, but am guessing it should say 'Tailors' or 'Barbers' in the
top right hand corner. Firstly, would love to know if I am guessing rightly
about what they did, and secondly wonder what happened to them. Would love
to see a picture of the signs in situ! As for the signs, anyone want them?
Sally

I`m wondering if the sign found in your
garden is actually from the the workshop and garage of F.Cleaver & Co. 53 to
59 West Street,Sittingbourne. Please see attached from Sittingbourne
Directory for 1908-9.-- The word gents on the sign you dug up could have
read Agents. These premises were next door to Ferndale House and the
Catholic Church as shown in the postcard. Cleaver & Co traded for over 50
years from this site.
John Crunden, SHM
yes, I see it. When I was younger, that was a kind of junk
shop-cum-car spares place. I remember my boyfriend once selling a set of
alloy car wheels to the guy there. I think I remember a cafe next door that
became a hair dressers, then it was Beaney's Model Shop, and then Boyds
childrens clothes on the corner of Ufton lane.
Thank you.
Cleaver & Sons - enq 70
My grandad Victor said he had Cleaver cousins
in Sittingbourne and believes our line is related to them. Frederick Cleaver
(senior, Victors Grandad) I believe had 6 brothers/sisters and they may have
moved there.
My family tree is online at
www.tribalpages.com/tribes/terrycleaver if you wish to see if there are any
connections. If you have a family tree of the Cleaver's of Sittingbourne I
would appreciate it if you could please send me a copy so I can see if there
are any connections, or if there is any other information you have.
Terry

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Gore Court Cottage
- enq 33
I'm wondering if there are photographs
available of Gore Court Cottage where my great grandfather, Edward
Fentiman and family were living at the 1861 census time period.
The name Tunstall keeps popping up in conjunction with Sittingbourne.
My grandfather's (Henry Fentiman) birth place is given as Tunstall,
Sittingbourne, Kent. Are Tunstall and Sittingbourne one and the
same? I'm looking forward to your reply.
Al Fentiman
Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada
Al
No photographs have come to
light but I have had this reply from one of our researchers:
"Tunstall is a village
which is now more like a suburb of Sittingbourne. In 1861 it was still a
separate community, about a mile from the town. It was actually a very
small village. Gore Court was an eighteenth century mansion and the
families who lived in it over the years employed quite a number of
servants. They had two or three cottages close to the mansion and I
wonder whether Gore Court Cottage was one of these. Gore Court House was
demolished in the 1920s and only the stable block stands today. Part of
its lands were saved as a public park. "
Hope this helps
Allen, SHM |
Catletts
in 16th Century - Enq 53
In researching my family I have found my
earliest relative to originate from Sittingbourne circa 16th century.
Can you advise if the Catlett family has relatives living there now?
Dear Mr.Catlett,
Your enquiry about
the Catlett family of Sittingbourne is interesting. In our museum we
have a copy of the Charter granted to Sittingbourne in 1599 by Queen
Elizabeth 1 giving us a Corporation (a local authority) and one of the
named Jurats in the charter is a John Catlett, being an honest and
upright citizen. As far as we can find out, there are no Catletts left
in Sittingbourne but there is one listed in the telephone directory as
living in Strood.
Peter Morgan, SHM
Please put the
person who was enquiring re. the Catlett family in the 16th C. in touch with us. We may be able to give him some information re.
family tree
Many thanks, Ruth
Catlett
enq. 126
Please forward my interest in the family
history of John Catlett, a 16th C resident of Sittingborne, to Ms.
Ruth Catlett as mentioned on your website.
Maurice Marks, Lake Jackson, TX USA
enq 172
Please forward my interest in the family history of John
Catlett, a 16th C resident of Sittingbourne, to Ms. Ruth Catlett
who is mentioned on your website.
Thanks very much.
Dean Shaffer, Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
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E.M. Tenison & Yokes Court enq 267
For a book on Thomas Bird Mosher, publisher (1891-1923) from Portland,
ME, I seek information on one of his correspondents--E. M. [Eva Mabel]
Tenison of Yokes Court. Have you any materials on her? Is there perhaps
a local library or local historian who might know something of her? I
suspect that the life of the eccentric Miss Tenison has given rise to
some local legends.
Prof. Nicholas A. Salerno
nicholas.salerno@asu.edu
Nick Salerno
Scottsdale, Arizona |
Cemetery records - enq 221
I have many ancestors who lived in Sittingbourne, and through examining
the parish records of Saint Michael's Church, I have found a great deal
of information about them, including those who were buried in the
churchyard up until about 1860. However, I have some ancestors who died
after this time, and I would think that after the churchyard was full,
they must have been buried in a local cemetery. Is there any way that I
could find the records of those who were buried in the cemetery?
I live in Vancouver, BC, Canada, so it is
rather difficult for me to do my research, and any help that you could
give me would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you so much.
Sincerely,
Beryl Galbraith |
Priston, Wheelwright - enq 257
I wondered whether you or any readers of the website would be able to
help me?
I'm researching my great grandfather William
Henry Priston (sometimes known as Preston) who who lived at 7 Terrace
Road in 1891 and 60 Pembury Street in 1895.
According to Kelly's Directory of Kent,
Surrey and Essex from 1891 he was a local wheelwright with premises at
15 East Street. Various certificates I have confirm that he went on to
become a master wheelwright. He later moved to Faversham, probably
sometime around 1907.
I have a couple of his medals from the Royal
Antediluvian Order of Buffaloes Grand Lodge awarded in 1906. Can you
tell me whether the lodge had a presence in Sittinggbourne or somewhere
nearby?
Any information about William or his
business or possible leads for further research would be much
appreciated.
Ian Priston |
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Milton Union Workhouse
- enq 209
Do you hold copy records relating to the Milton Union Workhouse for the
period 1840 – 1895?
If so could you confirm access arrangements
please.
Many thanks for your help.
Yours faithfully
Jo Heathfield
Records for the Milton
Union Workhouse for the period 1840 to 1895 are held at the Centre for
Kentish Studies: 01622 694363. Access by arrangement between 9 a.m. & 5 p.m.
Ticket is normally required.
Keith/ Helen, SHM
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EJ Moeran / Smeed - enq 193
I came across the Sittingbourne Museum website during online enquiries
in the course of my research work. I am a part-time postgraduate student
in the Department of Music at Durham University working towards a Ph.D
on the life and works of the composer E.J. Moeran. One of the mysteries
about Moeran's life that I am trying to resolve is from where his
financial backing came. Moeran had no full-time employment during his
adult life and while he was moderately successful as a composer, the
income generated from his music would hardly have been sufficient to
live on.
Moreover, his childhood circumstances were
clearly very affluent but his father was also not in full-time
employment any time after resigning his post as a vicar in Norfolk in
1907.
I therefore supposed that there may
possibly have been a family fortune and I have been looking into the
history of E.J. Moeran's mother - who was born Ada Esther Smeed Whall in
King's Lynn, Norfolk in 1866. However, according to the 1871 census, at
the age of 5, she was living at Gore Court and is given as the
granddaughter of George Smeed - described as "Merchant". In the
1881census, she is accounted for on the roll of Vanburgh Castle Ladies
College in Greenwich, at the age of 15, as a "scholar". Ada Esther Smeed
Whall married Joseph William Wright Moeran in 1888 and the composer son
Ernest John Moeran was born in 1894. It is therefore highly probable
that Ada or Esther Moeran, as she was later known, was from a very
wealthy family (the Smeeds) and possibly inherited some of this wealth
and that it was this that enabled her to support her son through his education, to support him
through his adult life as a composer and to provide for the family when
her husband gave up the priesthood in order to become a full-time
author.
However, I would like to find more
concrete information about George Smeed and the Smeed family, what Ada
was doing at Gore Court in 1871 - did she live there? was she visiting?
What happened to the Smeed fortune when George Smeed died in 1881. And
is it possible to trace whether substantial funds were passed to or
inherited by Ada Moeran. The composer E.J. Moeran died in tragic
circumstances in Kenmare, Ireland in 1950 and his mother died three
years later.
I would be very grateful if you could
inform me what information now exists about the subjects I have
mentioned. With grateful thanks and best regards, Ian Maxwell
You will certainly be able to get a copy of
George Smeed's will. All wills after 1858 are available from the Probate
Searchroom, First Ave House 42-49 High Holborn London WC1V 6NP. He died
in 1881 leaving a fortune of at least £160,000. The book 'George
Bargebrick Esquire- the story of George Smeed the brick & cement king'
by Richard Hugh Pecks, 1981 would interest you.
It mentions by the way the that the will was contested by George's
illegitimate children but not whether they had any success or not.
Helen, SHM |
Godwin
- enq 177
(see
also Buildings and streets, Harold Rd and Unity Street)
My
father was born Leslie Robert Smith in Eastry area of Deal on the 19th
December 1908. As you can see by his enclosed birth certificate he was
born to Annie Smith, Waitress. I will now tell you the story that was
told to me about my father's young life. My father's oldest half sister
Florence Godwin told my father and me that when she was in her teens
that there had been awful arguments between her mother and father.
Shortly after this on one Sunday morning my father was brought to the
house as a tiny baby by a young girl and her aunt. He was handed over to
her father (Francis Edgar Godwin) who took him upstairs to her mother
and from that moment on he was their baby brother. She adored him and
said that he must never think that he wasn't wanted by his natural
mother as she nearly broke her heart when he was handed over. My
adoptive grandmother was called Sarah Godwin (nee Hawkes). She married
again a man named Percy Jeffery after Francis Edgar had died. My
Grandfather died on (May 10th 1915) at the battle of Ypres serving under
Princess Patricia's Light Infantry. My father never knew that he was
adopted until 1929 when he asked for his birth certificate so that he
could marry.
He
wrote to my nephew Karl about his early days: "I was born in Deal
(Kent) until 1918 I lived at Sittingbourne where I can remember many
incidents mostly about World War 1. This is because there was an Army
Camp nearby called Gore Court Park and the soldiers passed through on
their way to France, starting with the Dublin Fusiliers. We had air
raids by huge cigar shaped balloons called Zeppelins and one night I
watched a street where I had lived previously blown down like a pack of
cards. In 1916 we purchased a business in the High St consisting of a
sweet and confectionery shop and a Cafe above. The cafe was one very
large room where I used to sit outside in my pyjamas and listen to the
various army performers singing, (I was supposed to be in bed). The
first school I can remember was Ufton Lane Infants, where I played with
trays of sand and small shells and wrote on a slate with pencils. The
next school was Pembury Street where I remember dancing to the piano and
the tune at the time was Irving Berlins 'Everybody's doing it'."
As you
probably know my main problem and I am still exploring every avenue is
who was my father's real mother and if I could get in touch with any of
her family.
My Dad also lived in William Street and above a Cafe Confectioners in
the high street. It would be interesting if anyone could remember any of
these surnames My Grandparents were:
Francis Edgar Godwin (died at Ypres)
Sarah Godwin (nee Hawkes)
Gunner Frank Godwin (Francis' Son)
Florence Godwin(daughter)
Albert Godwin(son)
Leslie Godwin(son) but baptized Leslie Smith to a Annie Smith of 23
College Road Deal
Princess Patricia's Canadian light infantry have been marvellous in
giving me information. But its his time in Sittingbourne and Deal that I
need help
with.
thanks again
Lorna Laing
enq 201 -
Smith
I was wondering
if my name and e-mail address could be passed on to Lorna Laing who
provided Enquiry No 177 on your website - or is there another way I
should contact her myself?
My interest is in the Smith family of Eastry, and as she starts her
enquiry "My father was born Leslie Robert Smith in Eastry
.................." I thought she might be a good person to get in touch
with. My interest is in a lady called Enid, born around 1900ish who
married a Smith.
Any help you can provide would be appreciated, Barry
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Percy Watson - enq 255
I am looking for information on my grandfather's relatives if he has any
living. My grandfather's name was Percy Charles Watson. He was born October
25 1899 in Sittingbourne Kent Eng.
His mothers name is Gertrude Watson (Bath). His
fathers name is Edward Watson, he was a registered RN. They lived on 14th
Dover st , Sittingbourne Kent Eng . my grandfather Percy was in the Royal
Air Force from February 25 1921 to February 24 1927. We have a Birth
Certificate on Percy Charles Watson, that is all of the information we have
on him. If you can't find any information on him or his immediate family ,
would you be able to give us an idea of where to look or a place?
This would be greatly appreciated thank-you
Vanessa Watson |
William Sparrow - enq 228
I am researching my family history and I am trying to find out more about my
great great grandfather William Sparrow who was born in Sittingbourne around
1857. His parents were Charles Sparrow and Mary Thomas. William moved to New
Zealand and married Francis Gough in 1883.
I was wondering if you could help me find out
any information on William, his parents Charles and Mary, and any of
William’s siblings (such as birth dates, baptism dates, marriage and death
dates etc).
Thanks in advance on any information you can
find so that I can advance my family tree research further.
Regards, Tony Gellen, New Zealand |
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Pope & Newman
Your
web site asks for 'snippets' of information, I hope this is of interest.
In 1901, Chalk Tavern, Bassett Rd, was occupied by a John Newman and his
wife Emily. John was a naturalised Swede from Stockholm. I do not know
if he owned the pub or not. In November 1879 John was aboard the
Whitstable schooner "Emerald", when it was run down and sunk by a
steamer in the Tyne Estuary. The accident and subsequent inquest are
reported in Wallace Harvey's book "The Merchant Ships of Whitstable".
John survived to give evidence at the inquest but the Captain, Ernest Hoult
and a "boy" Edwin Coleman were killed (I presume both drowned).
Soon after this incident John married Emily Warner, from Whitstable and
presumably gave up the sea for a land based existence. Emily Warner
was my maternal Great Grandfather's sister.
By coincidence my paternal Great Grandfather, Robert Pope moved to
Sittingbourne in the 1870's to work in a "Chemical Factory", where
he married Sarah (nee Austin) a local girl and in 1881 they lived at 19 Quay
Rd. By 1901 he was working in the Paper Mill(s) and he and his family
were living in Chalkwell Rd. Both died in the 1920's and are buried in
Sitingbourne cemetery.
Hope this is of interest, if you can add any more information I would be grateful.
ps although I am not from the Sittingbourne area I am living in Kent.
regards AJ Pope |
Constance Creusot - enq 56
My name is Max
and I live in the South of France. When I was in my teens some 45 years ago
I spent some years in Sittingbourne where my mother taught at a Catholic
school for girls. She died and was buried in Sittingbourne in the mid
seventies. I am her only living relation and have been abroad ever since.
I am trying to
get in touch with someone who might explain to me what happens to a thirty
five year old grave that probably has'nt been visited, whether it's still
there to be seen, whether I can got and have it renovated, and so on.
Can you give me
some sort of clue as to who to contact?
Thanks, Max Creusot
(mother's
name Constance Margaret Creusot
note:
A member has found the grave and forwarded a
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Dutnall
- enq 61
I am researching my great great
grandfather William Dutnall born about 1804 in Sittingbourne (census
1851). I found William Dutnal(spelt with one l) and his sister Jane
listed under St.Michael's Sittingbourne from the internet. I would
like to find the appropriate parish register baptism entry in the
hope of finding his parents' names. Could you tell me the best way
to go about this please?
Thanking you, Sylvia Purvis
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Venner / Cound enq 206
I am researching Hezekiah Venner born 23 May 1875. I have his Royal Navy
papers for his service in the RN in Chatham from 12 November 1895 to 14
November 1907. His parents’ address has been written on his papers as
being: 4 Whites Cottages, Chalkwell, Sittingbourne, Kent. I would like
to know if you can help me with any information about this address,
whether it is still there, whether there are photos available etc.
This gentleman later married (wife’s name unknown) and adopted a little girl named Cecily Rene Cound.
They subsequently emigrated to New Zealand. Cecily Rene Venner (Cound)
is my husband’s mother, now deceased. She did not leave any information
as to her adoption. Any information with regard to her adoption or
family would also be of much assistance.
Susan, NZ
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East Kent
Ironworks - Burrell - enq 84
Do you have any
information of the above situated in Frederick Street in 1908 particularly
register of workers. We are researching my wife's great grandfather Walter
Burrell who came to Borden in 1911 from Suffolk originally then Stratford
Essex he was a Blacksmith and we would like to know why he made the move we
also know that he was a Baptist. John Rose Plymouth Devon
John, Feb 2006 |
The Anchor Coffee Tavern,
Teynham - enq 29
Dear Sir, I wonder if you, or visitors to the
museum website might be able to help me to find a photo or memories of
the Anchor Coffee Tavern, which used to stand in Station Road, Teynham.
This was run on the early part of the 20th century by my G.G
Grandmother Emma Hales.
I am in the process of building a family
website and would love to have some more information, a picture or memories
of the Tavern and the Hales family of Teynham. Emma was
married to William Hales and had 11 children: Ellen, William, Jane, Fred,
Arthur, Flora, Alfred, Fanny, Albert, Henry and Nora. William owned
the butchers shop at Periwinkle Mill, Ellen, Arthur, Flora and
Albert all emigrated to Ohio, and the rest of the children all remained
local to Teynham and Sittingbourne as far as I am aware.
I would greatly appreciate any information
you can offer.
Many Thanks,
Sharon Johnson,
May
2005
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Masters
of East Street - enq 6
Dear Sir
I visited your Museum 2 weeks ago and found
it interesting and your colleagues helpful and informative.
I have discovered that my Great Great
Grandfather John Masters lived in 65 East
Street Sittingbourne as a Fruiterer in
1891. (according to Kelly's Directory
of Kent Sussex and Surrey of that year).
65 is next door (westward) of your Museum 67 East Street(now occupied by
Financial Consultants). My question is whether the existing 65 and 67
were built prior to 1891 or after?
Also John Masters and his father Stephen were
in the early 19thC Coachmakers
(mentioned in Pigots 1824 and Pigots
1840-Sittingbourne). John Masters
became a Fruiterer and Barge Builder.
I have visited the Dolphin Barge
Museum last Sunday and there is a whole
poster dedicated to three generations of 'Masters family' that were Barge
Builders.
I have yet to find out where John fits in to
this. If any of your members have any information on 'The Masters' I
would be interested to hear from them. I notice on your web page that
Sittingbourne was a Travellers town, half way from London to Dover on
Watling Street. Also that this ceased with the coming of the railways
and the change of emphasis to shipping of bricks to London by Barges on
Milton Creek. It is possible that my family were involved in this
change.
Any data, information would be most welcome.
regards
Tim Timpson
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Dr Llewelyn Smith
- enq 90
1902 - 1940
I wonder whether you can help
me about how my wife's uncle died. Dr. Smith lived in Sittingbourne. He and
another doctor died on 29th July 1940 after a car accident. Would you think
that the details of the accident and the funeral would be in the local press
and would it be in your archives in any chance?
Phil,
Newport, Shropshire
March 2006 |
Willis - Brickmaker - enq73
Hello, I came on your excellent site when I
put Murston, Kent, U.K. in Google. My husbands' g.g.g.grandfather John
Willis, was a brickmaker in Kent. He was from Blean, Canterbury. I have
on the 1851 census he was living at New Ruttington Lane, with wife
Elizabeth (nee Hodges) with 3 sons, 1 daughter, and a sister in law.
By the 1861 census he was living in Murston Road, as a brickmaker. By
the 1881 census, aged 64, still living at 15 Murston Road, Murston,
Kent, he is described as a Brickfield Lab. His sons James, age 28,
Thomas age 20 and son Alfred age 17 also Brickfield Lab.
One son John Falconer Willis, born 27th
October 1838, who on the 1851 census, is described as age 12, brickmaker,
born Ruttington Lane, St. Gregory (registration district Blean) on his
birth certificate, came to Australia after serving in the Crimean War,
according to his obit. (must have been very young), arrived in Australia
in 1857. After roaming the goldfields, and marrying in Brisbane
Queensland, he finally settled in Glen Innes, New South Wales, where in
c. 1877 he started the Glen Innes brickworks, which was run by the
Willis family for many years, until around the 1950's. My husband
worked there when a boy and then took on a bricklaying apprenticeship.
I just thought this may be of interest.
The only thing I cant work out is how far Murston is from Canterbury,
and Sittingbourne, which is on my map, but Murston is not. We would
like to visit the U.K. later this year. Do you ever get enquiries of
this nature?
Regards, Colleen (Willis) Queensland,
Australia.
Colleen:
Thank you for your
interesting enquiry. We do indeed get enquiries of this nature quite
often. Unfortunately we don't have the resources to do genealogical
research unless the families concerned have been prominent in the towns
history and we have documentation in the museum.
I can tell you that
Murston is adjoined to Sittingbourne (it is now a part of
Sittingbourne) just to the east of the centre, and north of the main A2
road.
It had become rather run
down in the last 40 years as the old industries died, and new industrial
parks have now appeared.
Allen, SHM
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Fletcher/ brickmaking - enq69
I am at
present researching my family tree. I come from 3 generations of
brickmakers in Murston. Starting with my G,G,Grand Father Charles
Fletcher who was born in Maidstone but who had moved to Essex in the
1851 census. His occupation being recorded as brickmaker. By 1861 he had
moved to George Street, Sittingbourne then on to Murston Rd & from then
on in subsequent census's he was always working in the brickmaking
business as was his son Charles & grandson Charles. The 3rd Charles ( my
Great Uncle, born 1896) is the one i wish to clarify a question about.
In 1935, two brothers, P & C Fletcher were recorded as making a record
breaking 1 million bricks in a 27 wk season at Murston, does anyone know
if these two men were my Great Uncles, or can anyone throw anymore light
on to what there full names/addresses or even ages were. I would be very
grateful for any information that anyone can give me.
June Marshall (nee Milburn)
The 1925 Directory
shows a Charles Thomas Fletcher living at 75 Church Rd. Murston. There
is no Percy Fletcher listed but a Hubert Charles Percy Fletcher is dhown
at 124 Church Rd. He might have used Percy to avoid confusion.
The 1908 Directory shows a Charles
Fletcher at 75 Church Rd. and a Hubert Fletcher at 82 Rock Rd.
TF, SHM
I understand from a
friend who lived in Murston Road many years ago, that she recalls a
C. Fletcher who worked
for Smeed Dean in what was known as 'middlefield' handmaking
bricks. He lived on the corner of Gas Road and later moved to
Buckinghamshire.
I knew a Mrs. Fletcher
who lived in Bayford Road - she died several years ago. Her
daughter Joyce Waghorn (sometimes called Daphne) lives in Burley
Road, Sittingbourne. However I am not aware as to whether there is
any connection to the above C Fletcher.
John Clancy may be a
good source of information regarding the Fletchers.
Peggy Jackson SHM
Thank you so much for that info on
Charles & Hubert Fletcher. It confirms that they were indeed my
Great Uncles. Might i add that Charles was 40 yrs old & Hubert
was 42 at the time they achieved their record breaking
brickmaking feat. So they both must have been quite fit for their
ages ( probably due to the additive free foods of their day
eh?). I am indebted to you. Once again, thank you.
With kind regards, June
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Farrington
- enq 66
I'm trying to trace my family tree and have
successfully traced it back to Sittingbourne in the early 1800's. I'm
looking to find a John Farrington who died 23/9/1845 approximately. His
death was subject to a coroners report, however I cannot locate where this
report would actually be stored, if at all? Could you be of any help. I
believe that he married Sarah Akhurst in Sittingbourne 1807 as this was
published in the local bans and that they had at least 3 children of which
Charles born in 1811 is a direct ancestor of mine.
Any help would be gratefully received
David, 2005
The Centre for Kentish Studies at Maidstone would
have it if it exists. Unfortunately too early for the East Kent Gazette
which would have reported it as that started in 1855.
Helen, SHM
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Moon/ Collard - enq 149
We were wondering if there are any records
in the museum relating to the Moon or Collard families. Charles Moon, in
1902, is listed on a son's birth certificate as being the proprietor of
a taxi company. We are given to understand this was a horse and buggy
operation and would like to find some information about it. Charles is
my husbands grandfather. Also the Collard family ran a store to which
we have an old photograph but no explanation.
Alex Moon

Although we do not normally
have the resources for genealogical research, we have been able to trace
many members of your families and this photo of 23 Dover Street, where
Charles Moon is listed in the 1903 directory as operating as a "cab
proprietor".
Shirley, SHM |
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Pack - Enq. 104
Hope you can help me, I am
researching my family tree. My (Pack) family came from the Sittingbourne area c
1800. I am looking to find the connection between an Isaac who first married
Elizabeth Higgs 1774, then Amy Lake 1778 both at Milton Sittingbourne and a
Henry Pack who married a Sarah Gore in Milton 1826. Their daughter Amy born
1836 Frinsted Kent was my great grandmother x2. I also think the Isaac
family came from Bobbing which I know is near Sittingbourne. Any info on this family would be most helpful. I live in Perth
Australia and so am unable to research the parish records in person.
Jean Harris, Perth Aus. |
Edward Twopenny - enq 252
I have just put the name 'Edward Twopenny' into the Google search
facility on my PC, as his name appears on the fly leaf of a book which I
have just purchased which was printed in 1871. and I wondered who he
might be. I was very surprised to see a reference to him appear on your
site. Can you enlighten me please.
Regards Helen Kennett
Edward Twopeny 1795-1887 inherited
Woodstock House & land in Tunstall son of Edward Twopeny of Rochester &
brother of David Twopeny vicar of Stockbury
hope that helps
Helen, SHM |
Lyon - Enq. 105
My great great grandfather
Daniel Lyon left Sittingbourne in 1855 to come to Australia. His father
Samuel Lyon was listed in Pigots directory as a builder/carpenter in
Sittingbourne in the early 1840's. Is it possible to find out whether there
are still Lyons in Sittingbourne who may have been related to Samuel &
Daniel? Is there any other information available about either of these men?
Cameron Lyon, Sydney, Aus..
Cameron:
Have you looked at the 1851 census for
Sittingbourne? If not I could check it for you to find details of the
family at that date. There was nobody of that surname living in the town
or surrounding villages in 1908. The directory of that year lists all
inhabitants. However if you want to find out if any descendants do still
live in the area you could write to the local paper, the East Kent
Gazette in the High Street as they often print such queries
Helen, SHM
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Brook - ENQ 120
I have been researching family history for 12 years but have only
just started looking into my fathers family (he died when I was 11). I was
told that one of my grandfather's (Leslie Hubert BROOK) brothers was a
commissionaire at the Queen's Cinema in Sittingbourne. I purchased the book
by John Clancy, "Long-Gone Cinemas of Swale" and discovered he was named in
it. I was wondering if there were any old photos of the Queen's cinema
showing the doorman in his "Resplendent uniform and cap"? Also another of
my grandfather's brothers Sidney Terry BROOK died in a paper mill accident
in 1895 in Sittingbourne I am presuming this would have been the one that
you have a history of on your web page. Are there any books available about
the mill? Any help you can give me would be most appreciated.
Maria Merrell (nee Brook)
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Goldsmith - ENQ123
I am researching a GGG-Grandfather who came to Pennsylvania, USA,
around 1850. He later served in the Union Army in our Civil War and was
taken prisoner in the battle of Gettysburg. Despite his age at the
time, he survived and lived several more decades. I have found through
personal recollections of his grandaughter that he was from
Sittingbourne. He would have been born about 1822. In her
recollections, she mentions that his name "James Goldsmith" was not his
true surname, but rather the name of a kind shoemaker to whom he was
apprentised. (This man later paid for James' passage to America.)
Apparently, according to notes, he did not want to follow in his own
father's profession. I am intrigued by this and wonder what professions
of the time might be so disagreeable as to abandon one's own family
name. I also wonder if there would be any records which would give a
clue to his birth name, or the changing of a name. Thank you for any
help in this direction. Claire Meloni
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Millen - Enq 116
The family Millen was for some 200 years a part of Sittingbourne life – as
butchers, bakers, farmers, auctioneers, and, more recently, as an editor of
the ‘East Kent Gazette’ in the 1950s and 60s. My wife is a Millen, and was
born in Sittingbourne. It would be marvellous to find that there were
records of the family which might be available. Of course, we should need to
visit. You may know the answer, though, to one question; Is there a Wilfrid
Millen on the War Memorial for the 1st World War? I know nothing more than
that there was a memory of his being killed in Service. Should be grateful
for any thoughts you might have on the likelihood of our finding material.
Yours sincerely
David Pearce
There is a wonderful web-site
'Sittingbourne Remembers' with details of all those killed in the war &
memorials etc. Here you will find Wilfred Millen whose name appears on the
Sittingbourne war memorial.-4th battalion Canadian Infantry 'a real
gentleman' died 10th August 1918.
Helen
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Webb - enq 95
Hi, my grandfather was from Sittingbourne and I
have an old photo that I believe was taken about 1910 of him standing in the
doorway of his father's butcher shop, A. Webb & Sons. The shop is in the
photo with all sorts of birds, fish and other items hanging out front, with
many citizens also included. Would the museum be interested in a copy of
this photo? Also, any information on my family would be very much
appreciated. My grandfather, Percy Webb, emigrated to America around 1912 or
so.
Bill Webb
yes please, SHM |
Court - Enq 115
My great, great grandfather Thomas Court was
christened on 25 Dec. 1801 in Borden County of Kent and died in the
County of Kent in about 1849. His son Thomas came to the US as a cabin
boy and eventually settled in Waupaca Wisconsin where he was a farmer. I
am interested in finding any of the Court family graves. I recently
visited Sittingbourne and visited the Borden Church cemetery but many of
the grave markers are very old and hence not legible. I am interested in
knowing the history of the Borden Church as well as the Bobbing Church
and wonder if any written church history is available. Thank you for any
help you can give me.
Sincerely, Jeff Court LaCrescent MN USA
There is a very comprehensive book on the history of Borden-'Borden the
history of a Kentish parish' see Synjon books web site
www.synjonbooks.co.uk
As regards tombstone inscriptions at Borden I transcribed all those then
legible in the 1970s and there were no Courts.
See document here
Helen, SHM
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Burnett
- ENQ122
I have just discovered your wonderful well presented website. I
hope you don't mind my family history question. As I live in Newcastle
upon Tyne it is very hard for me to find information. My Great
Grandfather and Great Grandmother may possibly have been the landlords
of the Rose Inn,Green Street,Teynham .My Grand father may also have been
born there in approx 1876.
Would it be possible that you may be able to confirm this? GGF name
was HENRY BURNETT born 1851approx - GGM name was MARY ANN DUNCAN
born 1856 approx GF name HENRY JAMES BURNETT born 1876 I would
be grateful if any help could be given. John Burnett
Yes I
have checked & in 1891 the census for Green Street Teynham shows Henry
Burnett 40 general labourer & publican of Rose Inn, wife Mary Ann 32,
son Henry J,14, railway station clerk, Jamees B Duncan, fatherinlaw,
widower 74 shoemaker + 1 lodger. In 1881 Henry was a police constable
in Teynham hope this helps
Helen, SHM |
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Alderton - Enq 78
I really
like the web site, very interesting information etc. My 3 x great
grandfather William ALDERTON was the baker on High Street, Milton. (evidence
from the 1851 & 1861 census) His wife was Frances and They had several
children, one of whom was Isabella ALDERTON born 1838 in Milton. My question
is in two parts. Firstly, Are there any photographs surviving of the High
St, Milton that show the Bakers shop? And secondly, Isabella was a
Schoolmistress in Milton as stated by the 1861 census for Milton. She was
living at the High St, Milton at the time. Is it possible that someone could
point me in the right direction regarding which school she may have taught
at, and whether any records are likely to have survived?
Rob
Jeffrey
From our
History Meeting regarding Milton Workhouse I have found out that two Jackson
children were entered into the 1841 Census. Upon contacting my nephew who
has compiled the Jackson family history from 1630's, he informs me that
Oliver Alderton's daughter married a Charles Jackson who was a distant
relation of my husbands. I do not know much of the family, particularly the
date enquired about. Regarding a photo of the bakers shop in Milton
Highstreet, my nephew is going to look through his collection to see if he
has one. My nephew now lives in Cheshire, but has done a lot of research not
only of the family. but various other aspects of Sittingbourne and the areas
around. If I receive any further information regarding the Alderton family I
will forward it to you. Re-reading my nephews letter hr does state that the
Aldertons were listed as bakers in Milton in trade direcctories from
1858-1883. Charles Jackson was also a baker in Milton. Oliver Alderton was
the Workhouse Master and his wife Elizabeth the Matron. Hope this may be of
some help
Peggy,
SHM |
Bridge - Enq 151
I am wondering if you know of anybody who
has researched the Bridge family from Milton Regis. The Bridge family
has resided in that area since at least 1705.
Thank you for any leads, Milton
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Coupland/Rossiter - Enq 152
Thank you for your wonderful website which
is very well presented and a joy to read. I wonder whether someone might
be able to help me with some family history queries. My Great
Grandfather, Edwin Harold Coupland, was, I believe, the headmaster of
Milton School. As he was born in 1886, and the 1908 Directory has him
listed as an Assistant Master, I expect that this must have been from
the late 1930s at the earliest. Does anyone have any information about
him - or even remember being taught by him?
My Great Great Grandfather, Edward Coupland, was born in Lincolnshire
where he ran a pub until about 1884. He turned up in Sittingbourne via
East London in the late 1800s (I wish I knew why!) where he is listed in
the Census as a "Beerstore Keeper". My mother recalls that he was later
a caretaker at a fever hospital somewhere in the woods near
Hollingbourne. I can find no more about this and again, I would love to
know more about him. We still have a rather gruesome artefact of a
stuffed foxes head - Edward Coupland having shot the unfortunate
creature in the 1920s.
Another Great Great Grandfather, Ernest Albert Rossiter was an
upholsterer in Sittingbourne High Street (nos 106-108) and my mother
believes he may have been Mayor at sometime. She recalls a photograph of
him sitting on top of a brand new fire engine - was this donated
following a fundraising campaign during his mayoral term?
Sue Threader (Mrs)However I
have now found the information we have been seeking which appears in the
1908 Sittingbourne Directory available at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mrawson/dir08sitt.html
As you can see from the extract I have quoted below, my 2X great
grandfather was Chairman of Sittingbourne UDC from 1896 to 1901. Problem
solved! I hope this information will be of interest to the other
enquirer. (enq 235)
"SITTINGBOURNE URBAN DISTRICT COUNCIL
The Sittingbourne Urban District Council was first elected as such on
the passing of the Local Government Act, 1894, and took over the reins
of control from the old Sittingbourne Local Board. In January 1895, Mr.
James Hulburd became the first Chairman of the Sittingbourne Council,
and remained Chairman until April 1896. The late Mr. Ernest Albert
Rossiter was Chairman from 1896 to 1901, and then Mr. F. G. Gibson was
Chairman for two years.
Mr. Henry Payne has presided over the Council since April, 1903."
(see also enquiry 235) |
Captain Harry Munns -
enq82
I am
trying to find information on my great-grandfather, Captain Harry Munns
(c1842-1923) and his life as a master on Thames sailing barges. Please
would you read the attachment, which I hope you'll find interesting. I
would very much appreciate any ideas you may have for further research,
or any information /pictures you have on record.
Jean Keeling
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Attegare - enq 271
Would it be possible to put this query on your genealogy page. After some 35
years of research, I have recently traced my family line (through the female
line) to the Garrards of London. Their family tree shows a link back to one
Alured Attegare seated at Sittingbourne. His son was Sir Simon Attegare and
his son Stephen Attegare assumed the name Garrard. Would anyone have
information concerning the Attegares of Sittingbourne?
Many thanks,
Alan Phillips |
Bartholemew - enq.174
Hello, We have been researching our
family tree for the past twenty or so years. George Bartholomew (father
Thos) and Margaret Winch (father Wm.) were married at Milton register
office 27th July 1867. Although the Winch family were quite easy to find
unfortunately the Bartholomew side remains a bit of a mystery. George,
as far as we know was born in Bilsington. It is thought that there may
be a Romany link. Does the museum have any details or is there anyone
who can throw any light on the subject? Many thanks, Cecilia Hunter
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Alfred White, Bargebuilder - enq 204
I am curious to know if there might be anything of interest in the
museum relating to my great-grandfather Alfred Marconi White and his
barges. I only dabble in genealogy, but am fascinated by the White
family ship building history.
Many Thanks, Judith, Texas, USA |
Pretty - enq 246
I am researching my family history and have discovered that both my Great
Grandfather and my Great Great Grandfather lived in Milton Regis and I would
be very happy to learn of any information including pictures which you have
about them.
My Great Grandfather was William Pretty, born in
Milton Regis in 1860, married Anna Marie Warnes in Milton in 1882, and had 6
children – William in 1884, Louise in 1885, Cordelia in 1887 Gertrude in
1888, Anna in 1889 (my Grandmother) and Jessie in 1891. In 1881 census he
was shown as ‘Master on board vessel ‘Onward’ ‘ and the family address as 12
Charlotte Street. In the 1891 census he is shown working as a paper
labourer. I would be very interested in knowing about the paper mill and how
it operated, although I read that it had closed since January 2007. The
family had moved to Chatham by 1901 where he worked as a publican.
My Great Great Grandfather was William Meredith
Pretty. He was born in 1834 in Love Lane, Milton Regis, married Sarah
Elizabeth Else in 1855 and had 2 children, Edward James in 1858 and William
in 1860, before being drowned from his barge in 1866. Do you have any
information about this, perhaps from a local paper ? Would this have been
working with the paper mill or with bricks ?
I don’t have any pictures of these families and
if I could find some it would be so nice. I would very much appreciate
anything which you can tell me. I would hope to be able to visit Milton
Regis, but as I live in Wetherby in Yorkshire I will need to plan my trip
carefully.
With best wishes
Yours sincerely
Diane Kerr
The following web site might help a little
http://www.sittingbournemill.co.uk
This site celebrates the history of Sittingbourne Mill and is a source of
contact for anyone who has ever worked at Sittingbourne Mill
Graham, SHM
Thank you so much for this. , we may well call Peter, it would be great to
talk to someone who knows the area well. Thanks too for the pictures of the
Lion Inn, it was lovely to see it and I have also been into the paper mill
site which Graham recommended and found further lovely pictures., I suspect
the Lion might be one of the few things remaining which I will find ! I have
tracked down a copy of John Clancy’s Story of Sittingbourne and Milton Regis
and it has so much information that I have been wanting. Sadly your first
comment is proving only too true. Some of the names I will be looking for do
appear, for example Love Lane, Latimar Chapel, Mill Street and sadly also
disappear during the book but I remain hopeful that something of interest
will still be there ! Maybe Hog Farm Row ?!!
I am looking forward to visiting the Museum very much and trying trace some
of the books in John Clancy’s bibliography, which may have more photos ! Do
you sell any of them in the Museum ?
My family as far as I have traced so far were in and around Milton from
before 1717 when my GGGGG Grandfather was born there and so was were all
generations (births, marriages and probably deaths) through to my
Grandmother Anna, who was born in Charlotte Street in 1889 and lived there
for probably the first 10 or 11 years of her life, so it somewhere which I
must at least set foot in ! One of her nephews returned there with his
family into the 1930’s so a long connection for me.
After reading John Clancy’s book I have to say that I am very glad to have
been a 20th century baby !
Thank you for your kindness
With best wishes
Diane |
EXEL - Chinaware - enq 224
One of my Ancestors Hezekiah EXEL, [sometimes other variations] left a
Will proved 10th December 1774 in which it states he was a Chinaware
Dealer of Milton & Sittingbourne in Kent.
Are you please able to give me any
information or direction as to how I can find out more about this
ancestor.
Yours sincerely,
Gaye Excell,
Rotorua, New Zealand. |
Artist - Emily Howard - enq 250
I have a painting by Emily G Howard called Still Water set at Milstead
Manor dated 1886. Can you tell me any thing about the artist as I can
find nothing. Thank you in excited anticipation. Regards Jo Hemley |
Wood - enq 249
The Wesleyan Church I have just been looking for information on the
Wesleyan Sunday school and turned as usual to the internet. My Farther
Charles Alfred Wood was born in Sittingbourne At 14 West Lane on the 16
April 1908 to Bertram Edward Wood and Clara Elizebeth Wood Ne. Cherrison
(correct spelling )
The family Bible that was started by my
farther shows it to be won by him at the Wesleyan Sunday School in 1916.
I do know that some ware in the house I have a ribbon with several bars
added for good attendance I will try and look them out.
I have the reports of the war damage to the
Church and wonder if you have any records of the Sunday School ,
My Grand Farther for a part of his life was
a barge Master I do have some information on barges he sailed. But I
would I any other info. I had another relative on the Cherrison side of
the family that was lost at sea, he fell of the barge, I do have paper
cuttings reporting the event and of his funeral.
My cousin has been for some time putting
together family history of both the Wood and Cherrison families.
My Mother Ethel Annie Wood Ne. Gates was
bourn in Murston on the 26 12 1907 I have so far not a lot of info on
the Gates family. I do have a book that my mother had Memories of
Murston by Geo Andrews there is a photograph on the inside of the Author
George Andrews and another of his mother and another of his farther,
(who has a full white beard) there are a lot of other photos of people
and places I will list them if you wish.
But there is no mention of my Mothers family
Gates.
There is a date at the back of the book, W.
J Parrett Ltd., Printers 1930. no mention if this is a first edition or
not.
Still I have strayed from my original query
on the Wesleyan Sunday School so will close ,do hope to here from you.
Regards Peter
Shirley
Thank you for your continued interest in my
first query. My book Memories of Murston like yours is , a first edition
signed, Sincerely yours Geo Andrews on the page with the photograph of
George Andrews (The Author) Hard bond ,Blue .
From the mid 1920 s our next door
neigh-bours until the late 1970 s early 80 s were a family named Smith ,
Sidney Smith my Mother went to school with in Murston, his Wife Ivy was
an Andrew from Murston I do not know what relation if any she was to the
Geo. Andrews who wrote the book, but I would have thought she had some
relationship. all alas are now gone .
I will see what else I can remember
about the Andrews Smiths and more important to me the Gates being my
mother's maiden name. My Grandmother Gates who I never new she died very
young, is Buried in Murston Church yard, but I do not know the position
of the grave is and have not been there for many years.
Peter.
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Bonny Family - enq 247
I am trying to find out a little about my family who came from Kent. I
know that my great grandfather and uncles (James Rippoth, Sidney
and
Henry
Bonny, sons of James Rippoth and Jane Bonny)
emigrated to Canada from Bredgar Village, and that some of their
family
lived in Sittingbourne and Maidstone as well. I contacted the
Bredgar
Village Historical Society and they suggested that I contact
Helen
Allinson who wrote a book on Bredgar village which is now out of
print.
Can you suggest anyway for me to get a copy of the book or get in
touch
with Helen?
Thanks very much,
Sandy Bonny
(Vancouver, CND)
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Boulding - enq 262
I am the Great Great Granddaughter of James Wimsett
Boulding. According to his will he was to be buried beside his
Grandmother Rose Couchman Boulding.

He died March 18 1929. Do you know someone
who would be willing to take a photo of his stone ? Or of the Boulding
Family Stones ?

Attached are two photos of James Wimsett Boulding. I also have his death
record and will.
Best Wishes,
Cindy White
USA, April 2008
I spent this morning (yes I know it turned
out to be the second coldest of the year) in St. Michaels churchyard in
Sittingbourne.
I have both bad and interesting news for M/s White.
I was unable to find a gravestone with the names of James Wimsett
Boulding and/or Rose Couchman Boulding. There are however many graves
from which all inscriptions have been weathered away. The Sacristan of
the church (at 9 High Street, Sittingbourne, Kent. U.K.) will have a
plan of graves and if M/s White would like to write and obtain details I
will return.
The good news is that there is a very fine Boulding mausoleum /vault and
a separate gravestone. An inscription on the front of the vault is: -
George son of Thomas and Ann Boulding died 6th Jan 1817 aged 86 years
Also Rose wife of the above
Who died 2nd of March 1851 aged 61 years.
Stone erected by George, Robert and Edwin, Sons of the above.
On one of the side faces is: -
Edwin Boulding died August 23, 1903, Aged 84 years.
And Emma his wife died July 8th, 1917, Aged 83 years
On the other side face is: -
Edward Thomas
Son of George and Rose Boulding
Died 16 Nov. 1814, Aged 74 years.
In a separate gravestone adjacent is
Thomas Boulding and Mary ?????
And Ann Swift.
No further details are legible. I have taken photographs and will
forward these if of interest. The vault is surrounded by a high rail.
Keith |
Ost - enq 245
I was born Morwenna Jane Ost and my father's family all came from the
Isle of Sheppey. Edgar John Ost was my paternal grandfather. I have been
dabbling in the Ost family history whenever possible for some years
whenever time permitted, and I am writing regarding information my late
uncle felt I should know, in a letter he wrote to me in 2003 shortly
before he died.
He told me that Edgar John's mother, Mary Ann, nee Holmes, died
when he was 8 years old and that Edgar subsequently engaged a woman to
look after the family. He wasn't sure if a relationship developed
between them. She apparently turned out to be 'no good' and, to quote my
uncle:
"In his twelfth year his father deserted them. When this
stepmother was convicted of shoplifting, they were put into care by
Queenborough Council. He was in the care of a Mr. Bush and the girls
(his sisters) were sent into domestic service. At twelve years, he
passed an exam that allowed him to leave school.
"Later he was apprenticed to Mr. Bush and worked on his barge. On
completing (his apprenticeship), he worked for a firm as Skipper of a
barge at Sittingbourne, the firm being, Smead Dean Brickmakers, near
Sittingbourne. He next worked at a Queenborough firm, the Sheppey Glue &
Chemical Company....... In 1930, he took over a Thames barge at a
Maidstone firm, Hudson & Son - the firm in Queenborough were using Cator
(?) lorries and no longer needed his services. This continued until
1936, when he had an accident. He fell into the hold of the barge and
damaged his heart. He died a month later......."
Perhaps, while writing, I should also tell you that Edgar's
brother, Alfred James, 1871-1944, I am told, became a Comodore Captain
on Bullard & King merchant tramp ships, one called, "Umwava" in
particular. Another brother, William George Ost, 1863-1935, apparently
owned a sail-making yard in Queenborough.
Can you give me any information on any of the firms or barges
mentioned? I believe the barges traded from the East India Docks.
Who can I approach to see if there are any records of the Bush
foster family? As Mr. Bush owned a barge, perhaps you will have that
information.
I look forward to hearing from you with great interest and I
would be very happy, of course, to visit if there is any relevant
documentation I can see.
I don't know about the Sheerness Heritage Centre. Have you an
e-mail address you could give me and I will contact them.
Later:
I must tell you that I have found the Bush family! On impulse I
thought I would try the census and just enter "Bush" and "male" and "Queenborough",
and I found them just like that! It turns out that they lived just a few
doors away so I suspect the fostering, for my grandfather at least, was
privately arranged.
But I have drawn an absolute blank regarding his two younger
sisters. Where they were placed, I don't know. The Kent Records Office
have advised me to check in the Poor Law records when they re-open from
stock-taking in a few weeks time.
I am wondering whether the local newspapers would have reported
the step-mother's trial and conviction? Or what court records there are
for that time?
Thank you again, and I'd be thrilled if you can find anything out
re the above and also any of the barges and firms mentioned.
Regards,
Jane Morgan
Your grandfather seems to have had quite an
interesting early life. He was, I think, born in Queenborough in 1874.
As well as the brothers mentioned. who were both older than Edgar, he
had sisters: - Adelaide; Florence and Mary. There was also another
brother, Charles.
After his mother Mary Ann's death Edgar John seems to have used his
names in the other order i.e. John Edgar. His Mother had been born in
Queenborough in 1844 but her father had been a fisherman He was born in
Woolwich in 1828 and it was with his maternal grandfather, John T Holmes
that John E went to live.
Keith, SHM |
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