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our schools
Brenchley House
Borden Grammar School
County School for girls
Holy Trinity - E323
Iwade School
Milton School
Langley House - E311
Tunstall School
Tunstall in
Wartime
Sittingbourne Grammar
St Michaels (The Butts)
Miss Scowen
Ufton Lane School - E231
more.....
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personal histories pages for memories
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Michael's School, The Butts - enq 21
Dear sir/madam,
I am trying to find out if there are any
photos in existence of St Michael's school, The Butts.
My father attended this school in the
1950's and would be interested to see
any pictures concerning this.
Can you help or recommend any books?
Thank you
Melanie Lonsdale
Thank you for your enquiry.
We asked a former teacher whom we thought taught at St. Michael's.
"My help in replying
will be limited since I actually taught at Milton Butts School. The
Sittingbourne Butts School was demolished in the early 1950s. It used to
stand in the middle of what is now St. Michael's Road near the former
Adult School now used by the St. John's Ambulance Brigade. I did know the
Headmaster Cliff Dolling and I have a photograph of him and some of his
staff. I suggest the best course for the enquirer would be to contact the
Centre for Kentish Studies, Sessions House County Hall, Maidstone, to see
if they have the school log book and perhaps other records which could be
viewed on visit."
I am afraid his reply
summarises all the information we have about the school in the period
after 1945. If you would like a copy of the photograph mentioned, we can
probably arrange this. The St. Michael's Butts Schools were built in 1847.
They were really two separate schools, one for 222 boys and one for 221
girls. An infant's department was added in 1892 to accommodate 135
youngsters.
Terry, SHM
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Iwade
School - enq 32
Dear Sir/ Madam,
Presently I'm researching some
History of Iwade C.P. School, Iwade, Sittingbourne, Kent, as a
project with some children.
We have found lot's of information about
the village it's self, although no definite dates as yet, but have found
very little information about the school. I have trawled through
lot's of old pictures and memorabilia that we have at school, and have
uncovered several items, one being the punishment book dating back to
1901 I think? A picture of the wooden building on it's own dating
back to 1950, before the present brick building was built, and more
interesting a picture of the original school that was nearer to the
junction of School Lane and The Street, later where the Farm Shop was
situated.
Unfortunately my research has slowed
considerably. I have contacted Kent County Council, Swale Borough
Council, been through Sittingbourne Library and photocopied very old maps
showing the school site position in it's old and present position, and
have trawled through internet sites but to no avail.
Remembering a visit to your museum last
year, it was to my pleasure that I found you on the internet, so here I
am. I would appreciate any information you have or any
suggestions of where to resource such information.
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Childhood in
Tunstall
I am Peggy Jackson's brother and i live in
Australia and have since 1951. I went to Tunstall School until I was 10 then
to Sittingbourne Council School till sep 1939. Thence to Sheerness Tech though
the first 3 months were half day a week at the council school each Saturday
morning then a week of homework. At the council we could get a small bottle
of milk or Horlick tablets for a halfpenny however the fatal attraction was
the little shop where sweets were sold and you could get a lot for a
halfpenny my favourite was dolly mixture. Any how just a bit of memory of
schooldays. I shall keep in touch when I recall more.
regards Gerald Dean, Australia
see Gerald
Dean's memories of Sittingbourne and the Mill
I attach my own memories
of Tunstall School. I lived in Sittingbourne until I
left home in 1963, although I had friends and family there for many years
afterwards. I now live in Essex and have no real contact with the town. If
you feel that there is anything I might be able to further contribute,
please do not hesitate to get in touch.
Yours,
Margaret Lock

Many thanks to Gerald and to
Margaret for their contributions above which relate to Peggy's memories on our "personal
histories" page. We would like a lot more anecdotes of life
in Sittingbourne. The history of our town and those who have lived here is
made up of small details which help us to build a picture of the town as it
was in years gone by. Whether you are nearby or far away we want to to hear
from you. You have our history in your memory. Do please share it with us.
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The Butts - enq 47
I used to attend St.Michael's School in the
Butt's during the 40's. The German planes flew over over us on the way
to school. We used to hide in the Lavatory when an Air-raid was sounded.
I was wondering if you would have any old pictures of my school and the
butt's. We used to line-up out in the Butt's area for school. I used to
go up to Gore Court that you mentioned in one response. We went rabbit
hunting around the old mansion that was vacant then. Thanks J.C. 2005
Thought you might like this picture for the Archives. My brothers
and I used to come down to the Baths. Building on the right since we
never had a bathroom just the copper or metal tub.When I was at
St.Michael's we used to go over for swimming lessons once in awhile.
Joseph Clark

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Milton School - enq 75
Do records from Milton school in the 1870s and
80s exist? If so where would I find them and is it possible to look at
them?
Jenny Bradley 2006 |
Teacher - Miss Scowen - enq 200
I came across a reference to miss Scowen, a teacher on your website.
I
am currently doing a one name study as well as researching my own family
tree. could you possibly provide any more information on her ? full name, place of birth, age in a certain year, teaching years and name of
the school in question, etc.
thank you in advance, kind regards
Jason Scowen |
Enq 232 - Holy Trinity etc. 1942
I am
e-mailing on behalf of my dad Bob (Robert) Eaton because he doesn't have
the internet. My dad is very interested in your website and is keen to
find out if anybody can remember the memories he talks about (below) and
he'd love to hear from anyone who has similar memories or remembers any
of the same people.
My name is
Bob (Robert) Eaton. I was born in 1935 and went to Holy Trinity School.
I lived in Sittingbourne until the age of 21, when I moved to
Brighton. During the war I lived with my family in Charlotte Street,
opposite Lloyds paper mill. From 1948 onwards we lived in Homewood
Avenue on the Manor Grove Estate. .... continues....
see "Personal Histories"
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Tunstall in Wartime
As a
follow-up to my previous e-mail on anti-aircraft guns I hope you will not
mind a comment on
Tunstall
School in wartime.
Item 1
There was a period at the school when it did not have an air raid shelter
and whenever a significant a day time raid took place in 1940 it was not
uncommon for children to be told to use the desks as a means of shelter.
The possibility of effective protection never occurred at the time but was
certainly a timely morale booster. I might add that school lessons
proceeded immediately after each raid and the teachers were very strict in
those days, the cane being the method for ensuring discipline was
maintained. Yet let us not forget, one of the teachers who administered
the cane, quite often generously bought ice creams for the pupils using her
own finance when we sat on the front lawn on a sunny day, subject to arrival
of the ice cream man on his three wheeled bicycle.
Item 2
At
one time, exact year I do not recall, a large bomb landed in an orchard near
the school. The direction being that which is the extended line from the
entrance lane to the school and about some two to three hundred yards along
a cart track, thence in an orchard belonging to the then Lieutenant Colonel
Lumley Webb adjacent to the cart track, near to some large fir trees which
existed. The bomb disposal soldiers arrived and dug down to the bomb
(which was quite large) and at some depth it could be seen from the surface
with the front sticking out of the side of the square hole made. Taking
some time to excavate and having completed on a particular day time, the
soldiers departed until the next day, whereupon, all the boys from the
school went to look down the hole. Thus, having been satisfied it was of
little interest and nothing was taking place, all departed for home, thus,
its removal was not recorded. To my knowledge, at no time was the school
closed for bomb disposal recovery but there again my memory may be lapsing
at this time.
Item 3
All quiet events do occur but one sad occasion was in Hearts Delight Road
when a bomb, advised to be about five hundred pounds, landed at the front
door of a bungalow and the owner, a Mr. Thomas, went to the front door and
died from the explosion. His wife who was still in the kitchen at the
back, together with their dog, escaped injury. However, the front of the
bungalow was rebuilt as the rear remained undamaged.
Item 4
A
final piece of sadness was when two Spitfires carrying out practice
interceptions suddenly stopped activity when one suddenly spiralled to the
ground just south of the Hearts Delight Road adjacent to a Royal Observers
post and very close to the very large white house at the top of the small
hill from Wrens Road. I witnessed this from the farm know then as Grove
End Farm on the road towards Bredgar. At the time our supposition was the
pilot had had a blackout but as someone who has flown a small aircraft as a
private pilot, it is my belief he was unable to correct the aircraft once it
entered a spiral dive as the aircraft was not at a sufficient height to
enable recovery.
Item 5
At
a later stage from Item 1, the school did have an air raid shelter built and
when “doodlebugs” came on the scene and because the siren sounding was
unreliable, a pupil was selected from the senior class to sit outside the
front door with a whistle and to blow it if a “Doodlebug” was heard. On
the sounding of the whistle all children made haste at high speed to the air
raid shelter in the main playground. Needless to say, there were false
alarms and a lorry coming up the road was a favourite excuse and would not
result in a verbal warning of wasting time.
Item 6
Most people have never seen a flying fortress bomber flying on one engine
but when it is flying with this problem it is quite low, as seen at the
junction where Hearts Delight Road joins the road to Bredgar near to the
Oast House on the corner near to the school. This aeroplane turned and
eventually crash landed on a field from which grain had been cut, on a line
south of Borden Church and south of the road extending to Oad Street. It
was the understanding that all crew except for one survived the crash
landing which was without wheels and text book in such terms. Not
forgetting Perspex from the shattered lower turret made very good rings for
the fingers, as collected some distance from where the aircraft eventually
came to rest.
Item 6
The Tunstall school also did its little bit for the war effort in the
production of vegetables in two gardens. One garden was opposite the
smaller children’s classroom to the back of the school behind the then
outside toilets and produced a variety of crops such as potatoes, cabbages
and peas, together with runner beans. plus, a few I cannot remember. There
was another garden much more extensive and on the opposite side of the road
from the school, this now occupied by houses which did not exist there in
wartime. Here a greater variety of vegetables and soft fruits were planted
and nurtured as a nature study program by to-days standards. Notable was
celery which was fed with liquid made from sheep droppings in a bag within a
bucket of water, for which the celery and was determined by us all to be the
best on the planet.
With all the activity of school, Tunstall School was very special and we
must mention the honours gained by it pupils educated there, some moving on
to universities and senior industrial careers. Nevertheless, it must be
remembered that memories can play tricks and as we get older, imagination
influences our recollections.
I
do hope my comments will be of some interest to the young man at Borden
Grammar School and do not hesitate to make any corrections to these
comments.
Richard |
County School for girls - enq 183
My late mother-in-law who lived on the Isle
of Sheppey attended "Sittingbourne County" from the age of 10 in 1925.
I haven't been able to find anything about this school on the Internet.
Do you have any information please?
I don't expect to find anything about
her specifically, but just in case, her name then was Iris Melita
Chambers and she lived at 98 Jefferson Road, Sheerness.
I would be most interested in any
information on the school, just to give a bit of background to her
education. As I live up in East Yorkshire, I cannot come to the
museum myself (at least not until we next visit Kent!)
Many thanks
Mrs Jenny Morley.
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Brenchley House - enq 178
As a
business we have recently taken occupancy of a room in Brenchley House
(75-77 High Street Sittingbourne). It appears to be quite an old (and
now listed) building, and I wondered if you had any information on it?
I have
found the following on the internet, but couldn’t find any other
references to it:
SITTINGBOURNE
COUNTY SCHOOL FOR GIRLS.
This School for
Higher Education was inaugurated in 1904, and is under the control of
the Higher Education Sub-Committee of the Kent Education Committee. The
School is situated at Brenchley House High Street, Sittingbourne, the
premises being up-to-date and commodious. Number of students, 125.
Principal: Miss
Freeman. Staff, Misses Stone, Wright, Warren, Simpson, Stedman, Sparey,
and B. Payne.
Regards,
Chris
Thompson - Due Diligence Solutions Ltd
A new history of
Brenchley house is out this year and is on sale in Sittingbourne
library, £3
Helen, SHM, 2007
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Enq 231 - Ufton Lane School
I am the caretaker for "the challenger centre" in Ufton Lane
Sittingbourne(the old Ufton Lane school) through your readers I am
trying to get information together about the school's past teachers
names, schooling, the air raid shelter, anything, no matter how small it
all helps, thankyou. Pat Lee.
I remember (58-61) Miss Eas(t)on the head, and Miss
Burton who lived in Park Road. The sand pit in the playground. The May
Queen pageant (and me as a page boy). I lived at 75 Ufton Lane. I
remember the excitement of the carol service at Holy Trinity School
where we each had to hold a lantern on a stick, with a battery to light
it. Allen
In my time there 1940-46 Miss Coomes was the head Mrs Pankhurst nee
Underhill was her secretary other staff were Miss Cray reception class
complete with sand trays for drawing and making pictures. Mrs/Miss Jones
remedial class( I think ), Mr Jones ( I have no idea if he was related
to the above) Later to become headmaster of Mintern School. Miss Brown (
she rode a very old fashioned bike to school ). Miss Underdown if I
remember correctly played piano for our assembles as well as teaching a
class. A Miss Eason was a teacher there in my last years she taught in
one half of a large class room that had been divide into two with
folding doors. the teacher in the other half of this room is one I cant
remember. The air raid shelter was in the front playground and was
visited quite regularly we also had gas mask drills. I don't remember
wearing a school uniform as such gymslip & blouse in summer with a
jumper in winter. We had milk at break time which I didn't have as I was
allergic one day the teacher made me drink it with the inevitably result
augh !!!! happy days
Shirley
I've just discovered your fascinating
website. I lived in Sittingbourne from 1940 to 1956 and in Borden from
1956 to 1962. (I now live in a village in mid-Wales, where I run the
local web site - www.llangadog.com ).
I was at Ufton Lane Primary School from 1946 to 1951 and can remember
the shelters in the playground (and the awful outside loos!). The
headmistress was Miss Fendley (not certain of the spelling), with her
secretary Miss Jones. The teachers I recall were Miss Easton, with Mr
Watters next door, Miss Layland (Leyland?), Miss Underhill, Miss Brown,
Miss Mantle and Mr Lang (who taught the oldest class). I later went to
Borden Grammar School.
Peter Berry 23/4/08 |
Borden Grammar School - enq 251
I was a pupil at Borden Grammar from 1955 until 1960, being one of those
boys whose school day started and ended with the pleasure of a train
ride to and from Sheerness. Of course, we didn't fully appreciate how
fortunate we were to have a steam train take us to and fro every day!
I have for the last few years been
compiling a series of articles about my memories of schooldays and other
childhood events, including one devoted to my memories of Borden. These
are mainly for the benefit of younger family members who I hope will one
day, be interested in a mid-20th Century childhood. The Borden one I
have called "The Old Masters" and extends to about 12 pages and whilst
it may be too long for your website, it may be of interest for your
museum and its archives.
Let me know if you would be interested in a
copy. One of the photos included in it has already appeared on the
Sheerness Heritage Centre website as they have a number of photos
related to BGS.
Yours, John Butler
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Langley House - enq 311
My sister and I were taken to the Institution c1942, she went to Church
House and I went to Langley House. We were there about two years, but I was
transferred to Hadlow Place, Hadlow, when it reopened towards the end of the
War when Langley House was closed down. Perhaps older residents of
Sittingbourne may remember boys from Langley House going round the area
collecting newspapers in a large pushbarrow, which we then took to the paper
mill in Milton. I went to the Butts Council School.
I would be most grateful if you have any
information about any of these things, especially any photographs that you
could send me.
I am now 78 and well retired after the latter
part of my working life, nearly 38 years, was spent as an engineer and
technical writer for the BBC.
Yours in anticipation, Edward Hartwell
Edward
I wish I had spoken to you when I was researching my book 'Life in the
workhouse the story of the Milton Union', though I did manage to speak to
two or three people who were brought up in Langley House or Green Porch.
They told me what good care they had. You would probably find the book very
interesting as it covers the whole story of the institution and the homes.
It can be ordered through the museum or www.synjonbooks.co.uk. If you live
in Kent you can borrow it from the library.
best wishes, Helen Allinson, SHM |
Sittingbourne Grammar School for girls - enq
196
I am in the process of doing some family history research and was
looking for details on my mother's early days. She mentioned that around
1949 she went to the Sittingbourne Grammar (or High) School for Girls. I
have performed an internet search for the school and I don't appear to
be able to find it.
I am not sure whether the school is still
there or whether it has been renamed or whether it has been replaced
since then. If you could advise me in any way as to what happened to the
school that would be great. If you are able to help, would you be also
able to advise me whether there are any photos or details on record
about the school. I suppose my aim is to find some reference to my
mother at the school.
John Hughes, Australia |
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